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Sunday, October 31, 2021

Alien Agendas & Military Industrial Complex?



Recently Richard Dolan, who I said on several occasions was one of the most credible researchers on UFOs, which has few good researchers, wrote a book "The Alien Agendas: A Speculative Analysis of Those Visiting Earth," which is overdue, assuming aliens really are visiting Earth. Despite the claims of many skeptics there may be a significant amount of evidence showing this may be true; either that or there's a massive effort to make it seem as if this is true, and many other major related unsolved mysteries that would remain unsolved if this isn't the case.

Unfortunately he ignores some of the strongest evidence showing what an alien agenda might be and focuses on some weaker evidence, a lot of which is from alien abduction stories which don't always come from the most credible sources, and some ancient biological evidence that is difficult for most people to understand. This isn't uncommon for many of the highest profile UFO researchers or skeptics, who almost always seem to have major credibility problems and do a terrible job presenting their case. As I've said before in previous articles, I suspect this may not be entirely accidental, and they might not be trying to present a credible case.

Many rational skeptics claim that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence," and this certainly is preferable when it's available; and in some cases, it is; but skeptics refuse to acknowledge that evidence. This doesn't mean that there's any simple straight-forward evidence proving all the claims of many UFO believers; however, there is often enough extraordinary evidence proving that there's a major unsolved mystery and that we should consider different possibilities until we figure out the real explanation, which is the scientific way even of so called rational skeptics refuse to acknowledge many major unsolved mysteries.

Some of these major unsolved mysteries, which I've gone into more details in past articles, include an enormous number of UFO sightings, often by large numbers of people and/or many people with high credibility, massive ancient megaliths that shouldn't have been possible to more with ancient technology, crop circles, cattle mutilations, mystics, and numerous other unsolved mysteries that many skeptics can't explain away without resorting to ridicule or some other manipulation tactic. When it comes to one major unsolved mystery after another, it can usually be narrowed down to two possibilities, generally speaking, either there's something to the unsolved mystery, which could include visitation by aliens, even if many of the details of leading theories are flawed; or, if there's massive amounts of alleged evidence by many well organized people, there's a massive effort to make it seem as if there are aliens or some other unsolved mystery. Skeptics routinely ignore this second possibility, but if it's true, not only is it necessary to explain the unsolved mysteries, but there must be a motive for all the efforts to make it seem as if there are aliens when they haven't been here at all.

Alien Abductions, which Richard Dolan relies heavily on in this book, is by far not the most reliable evidence in my opinion, however there are dozens, if not well over a hundred claims that have been reported, or if you count the anonymous cases cited by researchers like David Jacobs, Bud Hopkins or John Mack there are hundreds if not thousands, or by some estimates possibly even millions of them, but few of the can be confirmed independently. It certainly would help if there was at least one case with strong supporting evidence, and there are probably more than one, including Wikipedia: The Travis Walton UFO incident 11/05/1975 which has six witnesses to the UFO sighting and the claim that he disappeared at that time. Additional evidence was presented when the police investigated it and initially thought the witnesses might be murder suspects, but he reappeared just over five days after he disappeared. The witnesses all passed lie detector tests and no one could come close to explaining what happened to him, assuming his claims weren't at least partly true.

This certainly should be considered of something unexplained. However, even though this is the one with the strongest evidence to confirm it, there are dozens if not thousands more, including Bettie and Barney Hill, Fran Drescher who played the Nanny in The Nanny, at least two former candidates for the house of representatives, including Bob Salas who is also the leading witness at a Malmstrom Air Force Base where nuclear weapons were allegedly disabled by a UFO, Kirsan Ilyumzhinov a Russian politician and millionaire, and at least two or three somewhat well known cases, in addition to the hundreds if not thousands of cases allegedly investigated by Jacobs, Hopkins, Mack and several other abductee researchers, which is enough to determine that either there is something to this phenomena or there's a massive effort to make it seem real when it isn't. This doesn't necessarily mean that David Jacobs, who Richard Dolan relies most on is the most credible source; personally I think John Mack is more credible, but he's more cautious before drawing solid conclusions.

The credibility problems for many UFO researchers aren't limited to Alien Abduction researchers, although they often have the least conclusive evidence, and they often make mistakes so obvious that it's hard to imagine they shouldn't have known about it and fixed them. In the past including an article, Is Stanton Friedman working for the CIA to refute reverse engineering claims?, I speculated about the possibility that this might be partially intentional. Whether this theory is right or not, the blunders by many believers are real, and it may make it easy for many so-called skeptics to believe they're wrong about everything; however, despite these blunders there are many ;legitimate unsolved mysteries that the believers point out which the skeptics can't explain without making their own blunders. People that want to get to the truth have to correct the blunders on both sides, not ridiculing the opposing side while ignoring their own blunders.

In this previous article I cited William Cooper's claim that Stanton Friedman and numerous other people were working for the CIA which he reports in Behold a Pale Horse 1990, and also pointed out that William Cooper has significant credibility problems; nevertheless, In consider it a serious possibility that he's telling the truth about many high profile people having CIA connections, not because he's a credible source, but because this would make sense if the CIA wanted to control the narrative and they were able to do it. If anything the CIA's ability to control who has a high profile image has improved since 1990 making it more likely that they can ensure that only those with their support can get media coverage now that the media is only controlled by six corporations and there's good reason to believe that the CIA has an enormous amount of influence over these six corporations.

Additional people that William Cooper has claimed have ties to the CIA include John Lear, William Moore, Jaime Shandera, John Grace, Bob Lazar, John Keel, Charles Berlitz, Bruce Maccabee, Linda Moulton Howe, Philip Klass, James Moseley, Wendelle Stevens, Dr. J. Allen Hynek, and who knows how many more people. Cooper claims that he saw documents that back this up, although numerous other UFO researchers have ridiculed this claim; however, other sources including Richard Dolan have confirmed that John Lear and William Moore have both been employed by the CIA, and some of this evidence might have been available prior to 1990; furthermore, if they did work for the CIA that would explain some of their behavior throughout the years. Richard Dolan also provides some potential evidence that Luis Elizondo may also be working for the CIA, although he doesn't completely elaborate on it, his book says
Tucker Carlson: You think the U.S. government has debris from a UFO in its possession right now?
Luis Elizondo: Unfortunately, Tucker, I really have to be careful of my NDA. I really can't go into a lot more detail than that, but simply put yes.

Now, you would think that exchange might have been enough to stir up a large public conversation, but other than within the UFO research community itself very little has changed. (Alien Agendas p.8-9)

Richard Dolan doesn't elaborate as much as he could have and perhaps should have; Luis Elizondo has been portrayed as a whistle-blower repeatedly, yet he managed to get media coverage from numerous mainstream media outlets that don't help real whistle-blowers get their message out, and he even says or implies he's abiding by an NDA or non-disclosure agreement, which real whistle-blowers don't do. Furthermore, why doesn't the media ever discuss the obvious implications if NDAs in the first place or whether or not they're used to cover up information that the public should have access to in a functioning democracy? If they were more interested in getting information to the public that we need then they would have and they would have pointed out that non-disclosure agreements are essentially legal contracts designed to deprive the public of information they need, which is also a conspiracy, by definition.

This makes sense if this is part of a controlled disclosure effort where accurate information is often mixed up with false information and released through unreliable sources, especially since Tucker Carlson is one of the least credible sources from mainstream media, which has few if any credible pundits. Furthermore, past disclosures that have been reported by mainstream media, however briefly before falling down the memory hole, have shown that the tobacco industry has used trade secrecy laws or NDAs to cover up how dangerous their products were, the oil industry used them to hide knowledge about climate change, Congressmen used them to cover-up sexual harassment claims when they paid the alleged victims while claiming they were false accusations. In the last case, if not all the cases, NDAs have been used to cover-up criminal activity, assuming the complaints are legitimate, which they almost certainly are, or cover-up the fact that plaintiffs were literally able to extract funds, often paid by taxpayers, by making false claims, which is highly unlikely.

Richard Dolan also speculates about the possibility that aliens have altered our DNA about forty thousand years ago. His leading source for this is Colleen Clements and he cites the sudden introduction of the D allele in our DNA as possible evidence for this theory. Personally, with my background, I can neither confirm or refute this theory, although I find it highly unlikely that leading academics including Richard Dawkins would agree with this theory, and it should be subject to peer review like any other theory. It almost certainly wouldn't gain much support now; nevertheless, even though I agree it needs to be confirmed I'm not completely ruling out the possibility that it might be partly true. I wouldn't present a strong theory without additional support; however, I the way they taught us about The Missing Link in school over forty years ago is very different from the way they teach it now. Now they say there are many missing links but previously it was taught as if there was one missing link that was much bigger than anything else.

Ironically Richard Dolan goes on to say that after they theoretically altered our DNA they did little or nothing to influence our development since then, with the possible exception of activities since World War II, including the alleged increase in alien abductions. If the aliens did alter our DNA forty thousand years ago or so there's little or no chance they would have just observed since then and there's plenty of evidence, often more convincing than his claims about a D allele, to show otherwise, and as a regular contributor to Ancient Aliens he must know about it. One of the strongest pieces of evidence for the Ancient Aliens theory is the enormous number of megaliths weighing much more than should have been possible to move with ancient technology according to experiments that couldn't move anything bigger than ten tons without cheating and couldn't move anything bigger than forty tons even with some cheating; yet, ancient civilizations moved thousand of megaliths over fifty tons including over a hundred more than a hundred tons and at least seven or eight more than seven hundred tons!

These megaliths are clearly related to many ancient religions, mostly considered Pagan by modern Christians, Muslims or Jews; however, the same religions that reject pagan religions adopted many of their beliefs from them and forgot the history of how their own religion was formed; and a few of the ancient megaliths, including many at the Temple Mount, with the biggest one well over five hundred tons and many Egyptian obelisks that were later moved by Catholics may have been part of some unknown intelligence, alien or not, that impacted their religions. Furthermore, Richard Dolan acknowledges alleged telepathic messages supposedly coming from the aliens, which might be very similar to alleged revelations. If this is true then it opens up possibilities that aliens have had much more influence on the development of our society that he acknowledges.

Furthermore, we also have some methods to narrow down the motive of any unknown advanced intelligence that might be mistaken for God as Epicurus pointed out about 2,200 years ago when he said:
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”

The clear implication of this is that if God or an unknown advanced intelligence of some sort mistaken for God isn't looking out primarily for our best interests and is almost guaranteed to have other motives of his own, although it's unlikely to be pure good or pure evil as many religions seem to believe or imply. If this unknown advanced intelligence does exist, whether you call it God, aliens or anything else, then at best it's withholding advice for thousands of years that could have prevented many disasters, including wars, or helped deal with many others, if not completely prevent them including plagues or natural disasters; or at worst it inspired some atrocities, including wars that were inspired by irrational beliefs encouraged by this so-called God.

If this advanced intelligence exists, we should be asking what they gain for themselves by withholding helpful advice and allowing atrocities to happen, instead of assuming that God is benevolent and trying to figure out how this helps or why we're being punished, both of which are clearly false. Numerous UFO researchers, including Richard Dolan have suggested that some of the aliens are trying to help us; if so how can we tell which ones are putting our best interest at the top of their agenda? They would be the ones that communicate openly and honestly with all of us, not just a small number of elites, which means they don't exist. If they look out for our best interests at times, it's only because it's also in their best interests as well, or at least it doesn't interfere with their agenda. If there are competing agendas among the aliens, they've agreed with each other not to expose each others agendas.

Richard Dolan and many other UFO researchers think there's a strong possibility that aliens are using us for research purposes; if so, then we shouldn't assume that they're looking out for our best interests anymore than human researchers are looking out for the best interests of animals, or even humans, that they use for research purposes. Even without aliens, there's good reason to believe, from other researchers including Harriet Washington author of "Medical Apartheid" and "Deadly Monopolies" or Marcia Angell author of "The Truth About the Drug Companies: How They Deceive Us and What to Do About It" that shows that those with the least amount of political power, often minorities, are the ones used for research without necessarily benefiting from it, while the wealthy keep the profits for improved medicare and have access to it that the poor can't afford. If anything, available evidence indicates that what ever the aliens, or an unknown intelligence religious people refer to as "God" are doing our best interests aren't their top priority, which is all the more reason why we should stop trusting our leaders and demand disclosure with peer review not controlled by insiders.

However, perhaps the most important omission from Richard Dolan's theories in this book, which he clearly must have known about, was the claim by many people, which he previously reported on, that aliens were sharing technology with our government or corporations closely tied to our government, some by reverse engineering, and perhaps more with direct contact. In a previous book, "UFOs and the National Security State: The Cover-Up Exposed, 1973-1991" 2009. Richard Dolan reported on numerous sources that claimed that the US government or corporations were either reverse engineering alien technology or communicating directly with them to develop it, and if true, a large portion of this technology is being used for military purposes. However, if you review the sources that he cites they all have credibility problems, although some of his sources are very prominent, including John Lear, a former CIA officer and son of the inventor of the Lear jet, which raises the question of why so many prominent people would make these claims in a manner that seems to have credibility problems.

One omission from his previous that I found unusual is perhaps the most credible and thorough of these claims, Philip Corso's book "The Day After Roswell," even if this one still has some problems. Dolan hardly discusses the exchange of technology when considering the Alien Agendas, yet you would think it would be a major part of their agenda if they're either allowing their technology to be shared through reverse engineering as Corso claims, or intentionally and directly sharing technology as some of Dolans other sources claim.

The only significant mention of the exchange of technology in his most recent book does cite Corso's book though, but hardly discusses the fact that most of his book is about sharing technology and reverse engineering, including an enormous amount with military implications, a lot of which was already developed. His brief mention of Corso's book discusses one of the technologies that they couldn't figure out as of the time he published it in 1997 from Chapter 14 of Corso's book (p.122-3 of Dolan's book) which says:
The medical examiner wrote that measurements of brain activity taken from the EBE who was still barely alive at Roswell showed that its electronic signature, at least what they were able to measure with equipment in 1947, displayed a signal similar to what we would call long, low frequency waves. And the examiner referred to a description by one of the Roswell Army Air Field doctors that the creature’s brain lobes seem to have been not just physiologically and neurologically integrated but integrated by an electromagnetic current as well. p.192

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... the aliens had used some form of brain wave control for navigation. How they directed their thoughts or translated them into an electronic circuit, we didn’t know. But we knew that there were no steering wheels or conventional methods of control on the spacecraft, and the headbands we found with the electronic sensors on them were designed to pick up some form of signal from the brain.

The analysts at Wright Field believed that the sensors on the headbands corresponded with points on the multi lobed alien brain that generated low frequency waves, so the headbands formed an integral part of the circuit. p.196

Corso might not have known it at the time he died, but within ten years of his book being published they developed very similar implants that enabled handicapped people to partly control a computer, and within another ten years after that it was improved so they could at least partly control bionic limbs, although I can't guarantee it's the same exact technology. Between ten and fifteen years ago a handicapped person with electrodes in his head showed how he could draw a circle using implants in his head, which was shown on TV; it wasn't a very good circle, but it showed some degree of control, and the technology improved in the last ten to fifteen years. The latest devices may not even need the implants, although these are still in the experimental stages, they've shown that it almost certainly can be developed. Richard Dolan should have known about this but didn't mention it in his book.



If aliens have been sharing technology could these advancements be a result of it? Could much more research be a result of it? It's virtually guaranteed that if technology has been shared a lot of this is a result of it, probably including those similar if not identical to the technology Corso describes. If technology has been exchanged a lot more, possibly including the manipulation of monkey DNA which I reported previously on in another article may be a result of this and it may also provide circumstantial evidence making Richard Dolan's theory about the introduction of the D allele more likely. Another possibility is that the recent developments in the past few days about a successful transplant of a kidney from a pig to a human, which hasn't been rejected yet. If for the sake of argument, alien abductions are real and they include medical experimentation on the abductees, they don't involve obtaining informed consent from the abductees any more than our scientists obtain informed consent from the pigs. Nor do our scientists inform the majority of the public about their research ahead of time and consult them when developing ethical standards.

Theoretically this research could be done for the benefit of society; but if that was their intention they would provide disclosure and allow much more improvement in health care that wasn't so controversial, including Medicare for All. Furthermore, with or without the existence of alien technology, the vast majority of the benefits for research, especially in the United states, are only going to a small percentage of the public. When it comes to the most advanced experimental research, I wouldn't expect it to be available to most people until they're sure it's safe; however, when it comes to more conclusive research, especially when it doesn't involve transplants without consent from the donor, in the United States a shocking percentage of the public doesn't have access to good affordable health care, with or without alien technology, even though many other countries have shown it can be done much safer and more cost efficient.

Furthermore, if this technology is from aliens, a large portion of it doesn't benefit the majority at all, and it's being used to control and oppress people all over the world. In many cases the first use for new scientific research and development is often controlled by the military industrial complex. This includes some of the technology that Philip Corso claims was obtained from aliens, including the development of Kevlar bullet proof vests, night vision goggles, many aircraft, including stealth technology, and much more, supposedly technology developed at Area 51 or other secret bases. At one point in his book Richard Dolan indicated he thought the aliens might prefer to deal with an authoritarian centralized government and might be waiting for this to form, as if they weren't helping to encourage this. He also expressed concern about the fact that our civilization is increasingly being controlled by a small fraction of the public with the illusion of democracy while that small fraction of the public controls virtually all of the media.

This certainly is a legitimate concern; however, if technology has been exchanged, the assumption that it's happening independent of alien influence is false, since a large portion of the alien technology, if not all of it, is being controlled by the military and they're using that technology to control people all over the world and maintain a permanent state of war, which, combined with environmental destruction and other social problems could result in the destruction of our society as we now know it. If the aliens are an advanced intelligence they presumably know much more about the inevitable consequences, and they could either advise on how to avoid using advanced technology for all the wrong reasons or refuse to share it at all. Of course, many people, including Philip Corso, claim that the exchange of technology is the result of reverse engineering; however, even if this is partly true, there's little doubt that the aliens could have controlled their own technology if they wanted to, after all, if they've been around for thousands of years they avoided crashes like Roswell for a long time, until about the time we had scientists that might have been capable of reverse engineering part of this technology.

If there's an unknown advanced intelligence influencing or observing the development of our society they withheld advice about avoiding war while advanced technology was being developed just like they withheld similar advice while wars based on lies were fought with older technology, including the Crusades, Inquisitions, Holocaust, and many more wars.

Furthermore, if there has been contact, as many UFO researchers including Richard Dolan seem to believe, it's almost certain that there's some form of control group to discuss any alleged arrangements or deals they might make; and the most common claim about this group is the MJ-12 documents, claiming that a dozen high ranking people were chosen during the Truman administration to control their dealings with aliens. Other theories about a control group include the Deep State, which if researched well may be credible, or the Illuminati, which usually has serious credibility problems. However, even though many of these theories have serious credibility problems they may be worth considering at least to narrow things down so we might recognize which ones might be possible, and, in some cases perhaps even learn from the false ones.

Some of these theories even consider the possibility that historical figures or groups were part of the Illuminati including the Knights Templar, the Rosicrucians, the Theosophical Society, and many alleged religious prophets that supposedly received revelations from God; however, many of these have serious, and often obvious, flaws that many religious people are unwilling to see. For starters many of the people allegedly chosen by God, including the Knights Templar, who were allegedly doing God's will by fighting the Crusades were routinely betrayed either by God or the religious leaders allegedly representing God. When the at least one Royal Family and Catholic Church thought they had too much power they arranged for them to be smeared and accused of crimes, justifiable or not, tortured and forced to confess before being executed.

This wasn't the exception, if this God exists it's routine for him to allow his most devout worshipers to be tortured, abused or killed in a variety of ways; Jesus Christ was nailed to the cross and tortured to death, Joan of Ark was inspired to fight a war against the English instead of learning how to free the people without a permanent state of war then, when it presumably no longer served God's purposes what ever they were he allowed her to be burned at the stake, and there were many more so-called Saints that were made to suffer in a variety of ways for incomprehensible reasons, including the Stigmata, one of the most of these was Padre Pio, who did live a long life, but it was almost always in pain and he often had many illnesses. This isn't limited to Catholics; the Mormons were taught that four groups that left Israel thousands of years ago in the Book of Mormon were the chosen ones and of the two most prominent groups, the Nephites and Laminites, the Nephites were supposed to be the true believers while the Laminites were the wicked rivals of the Nephites, yet God eventually allegedly allowed the Laminites to defeat the Nephites and exterminate them. According to Mormon mythology the Laminites were the Native Americans found by the Vikings and later Columbus, although traditional archaeology provides no support for this belief and overwhelmingly refutes it.

Of course, the most widely recognized chosen people were the Jews, but God allegedly allowed them to be sold into slavery to the Egyptians, before saving them in a dramatic fashion that didn't involve letting the Pharaoh to get off with a warning and let the Jews go, instead God decided to "harden Pharaoh’s heart" so that he could "gain glory" (Exodus 14:4) by destroying the Pharaoh and all his soldiers who blindly obeyed orders, which is what the Egyptians, Jews, Christians, and many other worshipers of God are taught to do from birth.

Am I the only one that noticed this is brazen entrapment?

And of course this alleged God didn't stop there; he arranged for the Jews who were his chosen people to eventually defeat the Caananites "not because you are so good or have such integrity that you are about to occupy their land. The LORD your God will drive these nations out ahead of you only because of their wickedness ..... God is not giving you this good land because you are good, for you are not—you are a stubborn people." Deuteronomy 9:5-6 Bible verses like this and many others should raise major doubts about the claim that God, assuming he exists, is a credible source of morality and can be trusted to judge us in a fair way. This is one of the few times that God helped his Jewish chosen people for thousands of years either arranging for them to be persecuted for reasons just as bad or arranging it, starting with their defeat by the Babylons, then the Romans, both of who were non-believers in the one true God, like the Laminites, and dozens of more purges or pogroms, until he either arranged, or allowed, the Holocaust, which no benevolent God would ever do. And of course a review of the history of Christians, Muslims, or many other religions isn't any better.

We're supposed to believe that a God that behaves like that is being good to us? Religious people either refuse to look critically at their own beliefs and history or they go through incredible leaps of logic to convince themselves that God deserves to be worshiped.

It's tempting to go to the other extreme, which many religious people often do when their beliefs are challenged, and assume that God or another advanced intelligence mistaken for God, must be evil for the sake of evil and may even be amused by all these atrocities and the fact that so many religious people fall for these scams; however, if there is an advanced intelligence mistaken for God, it is almost certainly looking out for his or their own best interests regardless of the best interests of the human race, and religion has proven to be a very effective control process regardless of God's motive.

If there has been an unknown advanced intelligence influencing the human race for thousands of years, whether you call it God, Aliens, or anything else, this history should raise major doubts about their credibility and anyone exchanging technology with them in exchange for allowing them to continue their activities in secret should be considered extremely foolish, especially since the technology that has been developed so rapidly over the past seventy years, since Corso claims he began sharing it, has been used for extremely shallow purposes to benefit a small fraction of the public, and when you consider the epidemic levels of environmental destruction and other social problems, including a permanent state of war, then there should major concerns about destroying our own society.

There should be no doubt that if there was a deal between aliens and the political establishment, as many UFO researchers believe, then those involved in it must know much more about it than the rest of us, although there's no guarantee that many of the things they think they know are accurate, or that they might be missing on important information creating major risks for us all, as many worshipers of God or an unknown advanced intelligence, perhaps aliens, mistaken for God found out the hard way, assuming they acknowledged the fact that this perceived God was betraying them all along.

If there is an unknown advanced intelligence, possibly aliens, or the so-called Greys, that's sharing technology, then this background is worth serious consideration; however, even though those that allegedly began sharing the technology should have considered this, there's no guarantee they did. Nevertheless, if Philip Corso is partly right about sharing technology, then it's virtually guaranteed that it impacts most if not all advanced technology developed in the past several decades, if not since 1947, approximately when contact was first made. And if this is true, and if the establishment is denying it, they have to have an alternative explanation for the development of this technology, which they do, whether this theory is true or not.

And this explanation is shrouded in secrecy, and lots of irrational behavior that makes little or no sense. Nevertheless, if this theory is partly true there might be supporting evidence scattered in different locations, even though it's almost certainly mixed up with false information. Whether there's a massive effort to cover up alien activity that does exist or a massive effort to make there is alien activity when there isn't, a large percentage of the sources come from the military, and there's little doubt that the military is involved in the development of some of the most advanced technology in the past seventy years, whether it comes from aliens or not.

There's no doubt that they conduct an enormous amount of their activities, when they can, in secret, and often get caught lying; this includes how they spend their money. They've never passed an audit and throughout much of their history they may not have even been subjected to audits. In recent years they've admitted they can't account for enormous amounts of money with some estimates saying at least twenty-one trillion dollars can't be accounted for and other estimates say at least thirty-five trillion dollars can't be accounted for. If they are developing alien technology this could be where a large portion of their money is going. There are even numerous books documenting their fraud, most of which don't mention alien technology at all, including "Prophets of War," by William D. Hartung which documents the history of Lockheed Martin, and seem very credible and well sourced at first.

However, there are large omissions which a book about Lockheed Martin should almost certainly include even if it doesn't discuss rumors, which many people consider Conspiracy Theories about exchanging of alien technology, including the development of Stealth Technology which is widely known to have been developed by Lockheed Martin. It does open with a chapter of two stealth fighters, F-22 Raptor and the F-35 Lightning II, but it doesn't mention the fact that these are both stealth fighters, nor does he discuss the development of this technology. Nor does he even mention the most famous stealth fighter for a long time, the F-117 Nighthawk. This stealth fighter was admittedly developed at Groom Lake, Nevada, also known as Area 51, where there's allegedly been an enormous amount of activities involving aliens, including the sharing of technology. Nevertheless, even if I think there's plenty of background that should have at least been summarized in a book like this it does expose an enormous amount of waste by the military industrial complex, which could theoretically be partially explained if it's a result of using alien technology. And if it's a result of alien technology, it could shed some light on the agenda of the aliens that allowed it to be shared. If so, they're allowing our government to dominate the world, often bombing third world countries, killing many innocent people.

Hartung describes how the F-22 Raptor is one of the most advanced planes in history, but it serves no practical purpose, since there's no other country that can provide it with a reasonable challenge and other less expensive planes are always more practical to use. He claims that it wasn't even needed in either the Afghanistan or Iraq wars, although it wasn't developed in time for the initial invasions. In his opening chapter Hartung describes how Lockheed Martin went on a massive advertising and lobbying campaign to ensure that it would stay in production, even though it served no practical purpose and even many people from the military didn't want it. They almost won, but their consolation prize was that instead of buying more Rapters, the Pentagon bought much more F-35 Lightning II's, which were much less expensive, but since they bough so many, the prophets for Lockheed Martin were much higher.

They also banned exports of this plane, since it was so advanced, but amazingly several politicians including Senator Daniel Inouye wanted to authorize a version of this that could be exported, and said he could get the ban lifted; however, he passed away without doing so and no other politician has succeeded yet. Nevertheless, there are an enormous number of other Stealth Bombers being exported, including the F-35 Lightning II, which means that this technology is helping to maintain a permanent state of war and escalating arms race, whether it's made with alien technology or not.

Richard Dolan tries to claim or imply that our society is developing naturally and the aliens are for the most part just observing, except for the alien abductions and possible manipulation of the D alelle forty thousands of years ago, but if they allowed this technology to develop without communicating then they're having a major impact on our development. If there's no intervention by the aliens, then it can be argued, even if many people disagree, they had no obligation to intervene with all our wars based on lies. Those that disagree might believe it would be the moral thing to do to at least communicate and advise on how to avoid wars based on lies. However, if they're sharing the technology, and possibly making secret deals with our political establishment and major corporations, that would make them complicit, although it wouldn't excuse our political leaders for their part in these atrocities.

Furthermore, if many UFO researchers, including Richard Dolan, believe that technology is being shared, or at least that it's a strong possibility, then why aren't they going one step further and speculating about how many major changes are being made by this technology, and how it's being used for the benefit for a small minority of the public instead of everyone. This is especially important when considering epidemic levels of environmental destruction and it's impact on Climate Change.

Why aren't any of these researchers that consider it possible that alien technology is being shared exploring how it could have impacted technological developments going back at least to the fifties, which would be a few years after they allegedly began retrieving technology, giving them time to develop something, although not the most complicated things. These same researchers are aware that about the same time our government allegedly retrieved technology near Roswell and several other locations the Russians allegedly had their own opportunities to retrieve alien technology at Kapustin Yar or other locations under their control. If they retrieved this technology approximately in 1947, as many reports seem to claim then both Russia and the United States would have had ten to twelve years before they launched Sputnik 1 and Explorer 1, followed by dozens more satellites being launched non-stop since then. If they were reverse engineering alien technology are we supposed to assume these launches are unrelated to the alien technology?

It seems almost guaranteed that if they were studying alien technology at the same time they were developing these satellites that they benefited from the alien technology. Furthermore, several researchers including Victor Marchetti have disclosed that there was a massive network of spy satellites that were launched almost as soon as they began launching any satellites, and these were often used to spy on all of us, not just the Soviet Union. If that's the case then alien technology might have been partially responsible for the massive surveillance state that has been developing since then.

Furthermore, there's also plenty of alleged disclosures indicating that they may have made first contact with one of the aliens as early as 1947, and that there might have been a much larger meeting in the mid-sixties. There's no guarantee that many if any of these reports are trustworthy; however, if alien technology has been developed we shouldn't completely rule it out as skeptics try to. If this was partly true, then other rumors about a possible deal between aliens and our government, possibly with participation from MJ-12, that are also disclosed with credibility problems, could also be partly true.

What about the Moon Landing, or conspiracy theories about it being faked or that they encountered an alien base there? These certainly seem absurd, and few rational people believe them; but if we have been developing alien technology isn't it almost guaranteed that it was used for space travel including the Moon Landings. And if there was a deal made with the aliens to exchange technology, why isn't any high profile researcher speculating about the possibility that instead of faking it, the Moon Landing might have been accomplished with assistance, one way or another from the aliens?

Michael E. Salla, Ph.D wrote a reasonably good article about Colonel Philip Corso and his Critics: Crossing the Rubicon between Objective Criticism and Debunking; although I don't agree with all his claims, even in this article; and some of his other writings go much further, although they may not all be quite as credible, and even if they are close to the truth few would believe him. Summations and excerpts of his books seem to imply that he thinks our government, primarily our military, is already developing a much more extensive relationship with the aliens, which might even include joint operations on bases around the world, or possibly even on the Moon or Mars. A brief look at the introduction of a couple of his books might seem a little more credible than I might have expected him to be, or at least some parts of it; but even if it's not, it adds more relatively high profile people, some with Ph.D's joining in an effort to make it seem as if contact has been made even if it wasn't, which raises the question of why they would fake it.

I certainly wouldn't recommend people rush to believe this, especially without doing some fact checking; however, if there is some exchange of technology with aliens then this is huge, and the implications are enormous so it is very likely they might try something similar to this even if he and other fringe conspiracy theorists don't get the details right, so I wouldn't rush to rule it out either. Furthermore, if alien technology has been shared as extensively as Corso and others claim then it's had an enormous impact on every aspect of our society and as I pointed out in Do Aliens own Stock in Monsanto, DuPont, or Microsoft? and Who's Controlling Oligarchies Dividing The Market? Aliens? it means that dozens of billionaires didn't make their massive fortune as a result of their own genius, they made it with the help of alien technology, and if there were deals made decades ago in secret the aliens may have far more influence on our economy and society than the vast majority of us do. Furthermore, with or without help from alien technology, the vast majority of decisions by our government are made by oligarchs and the public doesn't even understand the basis for these decisions.

If this theory isn't partly or completely true, then there has to be another explanation for many of the related unsolved mysteries and why so many people, including many from the military, are trying to make it seem as if we have contacted aliens and shared technology. Most-so-called skeptics simply pretend these mysteries don't exist, which, despite all the flaws from the UFO researchers, might actually make their theories more credible.

At least they're not ignoring many major unsolved mysteries.



The following are related sources or articles:

100+ Alien Abduction Stories That Will Make You Believe 04/14/2021

20 Real People Who Claim to Have Been Abducted by Aliens 09/23/2021

Florida candidate for Congress: Alien abduction doesn't define me 08/24/2018

Ballotpedia: Robert Salas (Democratic Party) ran for election to the U.S. House to represent California's 26th Congressional District. He lost in the primary on March 3, 2020.

Facebook: Robert Salas

Robert Salas "Unidentified: The UFO Phenomenon: How World Governments Have Conspired to Conceal Humanity's Biggest Secret" 2014

Russian Governor Claims He Was Abducted by Aliens 05/06/2010

Wikipedia: Kirsan Ilyumzhinov Russian politician, millionaire and alleged alien abductee

5 Futuristic Mind-Controlled Prosthetics 08/31/2020

Robotic Arm Controlled with Brain Implant 12/19/2012

New Mind-Controlled Robotic Arm Works Without Brain Implants 06/24/2019

Implants enable man to control prosthetics with ‘thoughts’ 10/21/2019

Surgeons tested a pig kidney transplant in a human patient — and for the first time, it worked 10/20/2021

What does the first successful test of a pig-to-human kidney transplant mean? 10/22/2021

Colonel Philip Corso and his Critics: Crossing the Rubicon between Objective Criticism and Debunking by Michael E. Salla, Ph.D

Exopolitics.org: Michael Salla

US Air Force Secret Space Program: Shifting Extraterrestrial Alliances & Space Force Paperback – May 20, 2019 by Michael Salla

The US Navy's Secret Space Program and Nordic Extraterrestrial Alliance (Secret Space Programs) (Volume 2) Paperback – February 28, 2017 by Michael Salla

HILLARY’S UNYIELDING MONSANTO LOYALTY ACTUALLY REVEALS SEVERAL RED FLAGS, YET SHE WILL WIN, BUT... 11/08/2016

Bush tours Monsanto (1987) 05/21/2013

After failing 3 times in a row, Pentagon admits it won’t pass an audit till 2027 11/17/2020

The Pentagon Has Never Passed An Audit. Some Senators Want To Change That 05/19/2021

The Pentagon’s $35 Trillion Accounting Black Hole 01/23/2020

Holding U.S. Treasurys? Beware: Uncle Sam Can't Account For $21 Trillion 01/19/2019

Area 51's Most Outrageous Top Secret Spy Plane Projects 02/04/2020

US has cloaked bomber jets made using alien technology, proves UFO hunter with picture 10/18/2020

Is the U.S. Air Force B-1 Bomber Using an Alien Cloaking Device? 06/02/2021

Wikipedia: Stealth aircraft

Wikipedia: Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk

Wikipedia: Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor

Wikipedia: Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II

The Arms Bazaar: From Lebanon to Lockheed. by Anthony Sampson

The Arms Bazaar: From Lebanon to Lockheed. 1977 by Anthony Sampson https://archive.org/details/armsbazaarfromle00samprich/page/20/mode/2up

Lockheed Ex‐Official Says Initiative In Bribe Cases Came From Japanese 12/20/1976 Lockheed Sales Mission:70 Days in Tokyo by A. Carl Kotchian

Former Sen. Harry Reid thinks Lockheed Martin may have UFO fragments 05/1/2021

Former Lockheed Martin engineer from Texas: I met aliens at Area 51 10/30/2014 Boyd Bushman doesn't make a credible case, but he adds to the long list of high profile people making absurd claims, and he hasn't always been this irrational.

Wikipedia: Kapustin Yar

Wikipedia: Sputnik 1

Wikipedia: Sputnik 2

Wikipedia: Sputnik 3

Wikipedia: Explorer 1

Wikipedia: Vanguard 1

Wikipedia: Corona (satellite)

Wikipedia: Moon landing

Wikipedia: Apollo 11

Behold a Pale Horse By William Cooper 1991

Behold a Pale Horse By William Cooper 1990

The Secret Government - Origin, Identity and Purpose of MJ-12 By William Cooper

William Cooper "Behold A Pale Horse" 1990





Tuesday, November 11, 2014

Flawed study on conspiracy theories comes up with semi-accurate conclusions



A study that came out last year indicates that that conspiracy theorists are the sane ones and the government is the one that is untrustworthy or hostile and irrational; or at least that is the way some people that support conspiracy theories have interpreted it.

A close look at the actual study indicates that there is at least partial justification to indicate that they're interpreting it accurately; however there are also some flaws in the methodology of the study and there are also some statements in it that raise doubts about how rational some conspiracy theorists really are. Ironically some of the potential flaws in the study might be the result of a conspiracy theory; which could put both sides in an awkward positions since those that oppose conspiracies might hesitate to use this explanation to debunk it and those who support them might hesitate to accept conspiracies that raise doubts about conspiracies.

On top of that let's face it, some conspiracy theorists really are nuts.

David Icke claims that the Queen of England might occasionally transform into some kind of reptilian creature or something like that.

At the same time many of the highest profile self appointed skeptics routinely ignore scientific rational, when it doesn't support their beliefs; and often use some of the same manipulation tactics that conspiracy theorists use; or at least the ones they often accuse conspiracy theorists of using.

One of the biggest problems with this study is that it relies primarily on of discussions on the internet which might include a large portion of input from anonymous people that might have an undisclosed motive.

Another problem is that they don't adequately challenge a common assumption that the debate is often between "conspiracy theorists" and "skeptics," who often like to refer to themselves as "rational skeptics."

The truth is that a good conspiracy theorist should be a rational skeptic; and a rational skeptic should admit it when there is legitimate reason to believe that there really might be a conspiracy. By declining to address this many conspiracy theorists play into the stereotypes that often give many people the impression that they might not be as rational as the so-called skeptics, including many that refuse to acknowledge research that doesn't support their beliefs.

Ironically in many cases the government or traditional media often support their own conspiracy theories, but somehow try to convince the rest of us that it shouldn't be confused with "fringe conspiracy theories" which often turns out to be those that they disagree with or that don't suit their purposes.

The following excerpt from a relatively recent article that claims a 2013 study proves conspiracy theorists are the most sane of all might demonstrate how studies can be flawed in at least some ways and misinterpreted to suit the purposes of those that report on it. However a review of it might indicate that even though both the study and the way it is presented might be flawed some of the conclusions might be close, or at least closer than the conclusions by the government or the so-called “conventionalists.”

Scientific Study Reveals Conspiracy Theorists The Most Sane Of All 10/15/2014

If you’re a conspiracy theorist, then you’re crazy, right? That’s been the common belief for years, but recent studies prove that just the opposite is true.

Researchers — psychologists and social scientists, mostly — in the U.S. and United Kingdom say data indicate that, contrary to those mainstream media stereotypes, “conspiracy theorists” appear to be more sane than people who accept official versions of controversial and contested events.

The most recent study was published in July 2013 by psychologists Michael J. Wood and Karen M. Douglas of the University of Kent in the UK. Entitled “‘What about Building 7?’ A Social Psychological Study of Online Discussion of 9/11 Conspiracy Theories,” the study compared “conspiracist,” or pro-conspiracy theory, and “conventionalist,” or anti-conspiracy, comments on news websites.

The researchers noted that they were surprised to find that it is now more conventional to leave so-called conspiracist comments than conventional ones.

“Of the 2174 comments collected, 1459 were coded as conspiracist and 715 as conventionalist,” the researchers wrote.

‘The research showed that people who favored the official account of 9/11 were generally more hostile’

So, among people who comment on news articles, those who discount official government accounts of events like the 9/11 attacks and the assassination of John F. Kennedy outnumber believers by more than two-to-one. That means the pro-conspiracy commenters are those who are now expressing what is considered conventional wisdom, while the anti-conspiracy commenters represent a small, beleaguered minority that is often scoffed at and shunned.

Perhaps becoming frustrated that their alleged mainstream viewpoints are no longer considered as such by the majority, those who are anti-conspiracy commenters often showed anger and disgust in their posts.

“The research… showed that people who favored the official account of 9/11 were generally more hostile when trying to persuade their rivals,” said the study.

Also, it seems that those who do not believe in the conspiracies were not just hostile but fanatically attached to their own conspiracy theories as well. The researchers said that, according to the anti-conspiracy holders, their own theory of 9/11 — one which says 19 Muslims, none of whom could fly commercial airliners with any proficiency, pulled off an amazing surprise attack under the direction of a man on dialysis (Osama bin Laden) who was living in a cave somewhere in Afghanistan — is unwaveringly true. .....

“The CIA’s campaign to popularize the term ‘conspiracy theory’ and make conspiracy belief a target of ridicule and hostility must be credited, unfortunately, with being one of the most successful propaganda initiatives of all time,” political scientist Lance deHaven-Smith said.

He further noted that, essentially, those who use the term as an insult are doing so as the result of a well-documented, undisputed and historically accurate conspiracy by the CIA to cover up the JFK assassination. Complete article


First of all if you go to the original study which he cites, (“What about building 7?” A social psychological study of online discussion of 9/11 conspiracy theories 07/08/2013), the authors of that study don't claim that either “conspiracists” or “conventionalists” are more "sane" than the other; and they don't even mention the CIA. However it is understandable that they came to those conclusions on their own, at least to a point. I certainly don't limit myself to conclusions from any one study or article.

More importantly is that they're using information from a large number of people that might have an ulterior motive or others that may have been manipulated by those that do and the study doesn't seem to take this possibility into consideration. This type of activity isn't limited to discussion of conspiracy theories; there have been numerous stories about how people have been hired to do online work for advertisers, political purposes, social research projects or other reasons; and they're probably more common than many people realize.

An article from earlier this year, Why Trolls Start Flame Wars: Swearing and Name-Calling Shut Down the Ability to Think and Focus cites a study reported in the New York Times about how uncivil comments polarizes the discussion and prevents rational reviews. In order to do this study they apparently had people intentionally behave in an irrational manner. The results of this study would enable anyone that wants to disrupt discussion about issues that they don't want disclosed to do so.



The amount of disruptive behavior done for this research project is almost certainly negligible; however much more is almost certainly being done to distort discussion, perhaps with the knowledge they obtained from either this research project or similar ones. After spending even a modest amount of time on some of these discussion boards it didn't take long to recognize some people that might have been behaving for these purposes; however there are almost certainly others that do so for their own irrational reasons so if, as I suspect this is happening, then it is hard to tell them apart. Those that are being disruptive for an ulterior motive might look the same as obsessive compulsive people that spend too much time on internet chat rooms and do a lot of trolling.

Glenn Greenwald reported previously on How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations using these methods and others. This type of activity would almost certainly skewer any research results being done using this method and unless they take this into consideration then their results might be flawed.

This could mean that this study might need to be reinterpreted based on the possibility that large portions of the discussions they've been studying might involve phony attempts to manipulate the public and even help advance stereotypes about conspiracy theories as political scientist Lance deHaven-Smith says or implies.

It is understandable for some people to be skeptical of the possibility that there are a lot of trolls disrupting internet discussions but this is actually trivial compared to some of the past conspiracy theories that have been proven to be true. Googling "conspiracy theories which turned out to be true" quickly turns out a long list of conspiracy theories that have been admitted to by the government as well as others that probably aren't quite as reliable. The same source that cited this study also came up with 5 conspiracy theories which turned out to be true. At least four of the examples they cite have been admitted to in government documents or hearings and the fifth has also been proven by numerous reliable sources.

Additional examples of conspiracies that have been proven to be true could include Watergate, Iran/Contra and the effort to look the other way when drugs were being run into the country to finance the Contras as well, which was exposed in the Kerry Committee report.

One other famous and well known theory that was acknowledged by the government was the JFK assassination conspiracy theory, or one version of it.

That's right one of the most widely ridiculed "conspiracy theories" was at least partially confirmed by a well known government investigation. The House Select Committee on Assassinations (HSCA) concluded that Kennedy was probably killed by a conspiracy. Then they tried to restore the previous explanation which never made any sense at all; and anyone that took a close look at the details knew this either before the HSCA came to their conclusions or after, or after they were revised so that they could restore the original incompetent explanation.

Who should feel more absurd or ridiculous for their beliefs, those that check the facts and notice when the government is changing their stories and misrepresenting history, or those that blindly believe what they're told by authority figures when it is repeated over and over again without scrutiny, even when it doesn't make sense?

Some of the conspiracy theories that have been proven true and often confirmed with disclosed documents that were previously classified are as absurd if not more absurd than arranging for a lot of people to infiltrate the internet to help distort the stereotypes about conspiracy theories. They would also be less expensive and harder to get caught at it as long as they rely on people that have an incentive not to disclose it, which would mean they would be disclosing their own illegal or unethical activity; and if they did so they would lack credibility and they could easily be portrayed as a conspiracy theorist.

However if the CIA participated in activities like Operation Northwoods, Operation Paperclip, MK-Ultra, and others as disclosed in the previous article and others that do an even better job documenting their activities then it is far more reasonable to assume that they wouldn't hesitate to create phony bloggers and message board participants than to assume that it is out of the question. However, to start assuming that just about every blogger or commenter would go to the other extreme. It would be far more rational to try to recognize principals based on their merits than to try to spend too much time trying to figure out which bloggers or commentators are credible, unless in some cases people get a large volume of information from a few sources. Even then occasional skepticism is in order.

Mike Adams, who is cited in a lower profile manner in the above article, does a far better job pointing out rational conspiracies that have been proven to be true in, "Refreshing rationality: Why NOT believing in conspiracies is a sure sign of mental retardation." He points out a long list of examples where government officials are the conspiracy theorists and prosecute people based on their theories. He states, "The idea, then, that there is no such thing as a conspiracy is flatly ludicrous," which is true; however there are plenty of ludicrous things that have also been true like some of the conspiracy theories that have been proven to be true and the selection of presidential candidates we had during the 2012 elections or during the 2010 midterm elections when the Tea Party ran a lot of ludicrous candidates.

The truth is often ludicrous!

What is more important is that in addition to being ludicrous the claim that there are no such things as conspiracies is factually inaccurate.



As for Lance deHaven-Smith's claim that The CIA’s campaign to popularize the term ‘conspiracy theory’ and make conspiracy belief a target of ridicule and hostility must be credited, unfortunately, with being one of the most successful propaganda initiatives of all time, which has apparently gone viral on the internet, there is an enormous amount of evidence to indicate that either it is true or there are one or more other groups that have accomplished this. I don't completely rule out the possibility that there are multiple groups with a common ideology that have done this, actually this is something that the CIA might have taken advantage of if they were doing such a thing without their knowledge.

As I indicated previously in at least a couple of posts about Philip Zimbardo, Lucifer Effect, Stanford Prison Experiment and Corruption or Bias in the American Psychological Association the military has been openly financing psychological research for decades and the CIA has almost certainly been involved in a lot of it, including some that has been disclosed like the ones previously mentioned and the Obedience to Authority experiments, which Professor Alfred McCoy claims is almost certainly done with support from the CIA acting through the Office of Navel Research.

Some of this research could easily be used for propaganda purposes and there is an enormous amount of additional research that could also be used for that purpose but it involves going through a lot of material which the majority of the public isn't inclined to do. Numerous sources including Victor Marchetti and Alfred McCoy have reported, over the decades about, how the CIA has been consulting with academics since they began and before when their predecessor the OSS began consulting with academics for covert operations during WWII, as indicated in the following declassified document from http://www.foia.cia.gov/.

The CIA and Acadame By Ralph E. Cook 1983

Close ties between the Central Intelligence Agency and American colleges and universities have existed since the birth of the Agency in 1947. The bonds between national intelligence and the academic world actually predate the Agency, for Williams J. Donovan, President Roosevelt’s Coordinator of Information, established a research team of distinguished academicians to assist him in 1941. Donovan proposed a novel idea: have the information that he was collecting, mostly from the military services and the Department of State, analyzed not only by the intelligence components within the War and Navy Departments but by his team of “scholars, economists, psychologists, technicians, and students of finance.” To head his research group, Donovan chose James Phinney Baxter, president of Williams College and a noted specialist in American diplomatic history. Complete article PDF


It is understandable why they would chose to consult with scholars, psychologists, and technicians when trying to win a war but it is hard to understand why they would have relied so heavily on economists and students of finance from the very beginning unless you take into consideration that a large portion of the differences between the United States and the the USSR even before WWII was based on the way they controlled financing. What is rarely mentioned when discussing the appeasement of Hitler by the mainstream media is that part of the reason why they appeased them is because they thought he was a better alternative than the Soviet Union when it came to his financial ideology which was more like the one supported by the west giving large financial benefits to the elites.

A large portion of the information that good conspiracy theorists, who also happen to be rational skeptics rely on might not actually be completely secret at all, although it may not be widely broadcast to large segments of the public. A lot of this can be found in lower profile news outlets books and at the library; but the most accurate conclusions aren't always the quickest.

It is difficult to tell the difference between those that are trying to expose the truth for legitimate reasons and those that re doing so for an ulterior motive but it is much easier if more people recognize Manipulation Tactics and realize that those that are more likely to use them are often less likely to be sincere, although technically it is possible to use manipulation tactics to convince people of the truth there is less motive to do so.

This study may have some flaws but there are other ways to confirm that some conspiracy theorists are more rational and better informed than the majority of the public or some of the self described skeptics that automatically accept the official story without scrutiny even when research raises major doubts about it.



If the problems with this study are corrected then it could be more helpful in understanding how rational conspiracy theorists are, or sorting out the more rational ones from those that just go along with what they're told from one source or another. One of the things that they could study is how many people accepted this study without scrutiny, or even reading it.

People that are accustomed to reviewing social research studies might realize that most if not all of them have some kind of flaws in them and some are much worse. In order to recognize how reliable the studies are it is important to recognize their potential flaws. This could be similar to the Obedience to Authority experiments. A close review could determine who came up with their own ideas and who accepted the study because it supported their beliefs or who refuted it simply because it didn’t fit their beliefs and why.

A Google search of Lance deHaven-Smith's quote, “The CIA’s campaign to popularize the term ‘conspiracy theory’ and make conspiracy belief a target of ridicule and hostility must be credited, unfortunately, with being one of the most successful propaganda initiatives of all time turns up,” hundreds if not thousands of hits with the full quote; and most of them seem to be related to the study that they claim shows “Study reveals conspiracy theorists the most sane of all.” It doesn’t take much searching to find that a lot of people accepted it without scrutiny; but apparently this brought a response from one of the author’s who claims that they’ve been taken out of context.

Mike Wood wrote Setting the record straight on Wood & Douglas, 2013 which seems to correct some of the misconceptions; however it doesn’t address some of the concerns that I made and I still believe there are additional concerns about the methodology of the study. What this does indicate is that additional study appears to be going on regarding how people respond to the study without scrutiny, or use it to support their beliefs, right or wrong.

Apparently they followed it up with another study that puts more emphasis on the claim that many conspiracy theorists accept contradictory theories at the same time which has been interpreted as saying “Psychologists prove conspiracy theorists are all crazy!” which is another misrepresentation. The claim that conspiracy theorists accept contradictory claims was in the first study; however it also says that they’re not necessarily overly attached to them. This could also be explained, for some commentators, if they make quick arguments based on the assumption that they’re theories which means that they don’t consider them firm beliefs; and if they recognize that they contradict each other and that both theories can’t be the true then this is acceptable in a rational discussion.

Sorting through multiple possibilities until they have adequate information to figure out which is true is part of the scientific process.

When doing this research it would also be helpful to have access to the servers of the discussions, although this would be an enormous amount of work and it would involve checking a lot of servers to find out the original sources and their IP or if some of the trolls all come from some of the same sources.

The people in the best position to do this would be those that control the media, since a large portion is on their servers and those that control many of the conspiracy message boards or Facebook.

Basically the people that would be in the best position to do this would be the NSA, which controls the ECHELON program, which they now call PRISM.

This is a possibility that I wouldn't rule out and if they wanted to control the disclosure of their own activities so that it either happens on their own terms or not at all this might be the way to do it.

A close look at many of the disclosures that have been coming out over the decades indicates that there are almost always obvious flaws mixed in with the truth, or something close to the truth so reasonable discretion will always be appropriate when sorting through it to get as close to the truth as possible.

On a lighter note if Monsanto pushes bizarre conspiracy theory to deflect blame for GE wheat contamination of commercial crops among other conspiracy theories indicates that it isn't whether or not there are conspiracies; but which ones you support since both sides often promote one or another. FWIW Here are a couple other articles that are related if anyone is interested:

12 Things You Were Not Taught in School About Creative Thinking

German Journalist Blows Whistle On How the CIA Controls The Media

Donovan and the ClA: A History of the Establishment of the Central Intelligence Agency by Thomas F. Troy


Monday, January 20, 2014

Bickering over Prism continues to ignore ECHELON and minimize disclosure!



After more than six months of sporadic news about the Prism program leaked by Edward Snowden the traditional media has stopped paying much attention to it at all; and when it does come up it often involves more bickering than any real reforms or new disclosures. This is also the case with some of the highest profile alternative media outlets.

As I pointed out previously in Is “Prism” news? or is it ECHELON? the program that Edward Snowden claimed to be exposing wasn't really news at all. It has all the same characteristics as ECHELON, which was disclosed widely no less than thirteen years earlier, before the attacks on 9/11 even happened and it was first exposed in 1989 although at that time it didn't receive nearly as much attention. Very few news outlets, including most alternative news outlets seem to have acknowledged this problem at all yet ECHELON was reported on Sixty Minutes and several other high profile and reputable news outlets including the National Geographic and the characteristics clearly are the same.

It wasn't long before conspiracy theories began appearing and some of the contributors began arguing with each other and I followed it up with Are Naomi Wolf, Edward Snowden, Prism, and ECHELON, dividing us? The bickering has only escalated although there hasn't always been much coverage of it in the traditional news.

Unfortunately some of the good reporters that have exposed a lot of news worthy stories have begun arguing with each other and in some cases some of them have even adopted the same deceptive tactics that the traditional commercial news routinely use as indicated in the following article.

Greenwald Responds to Critics, Rejects Conspiracism

The story of NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden has dominated the mainstream news for the last seven months. During that time, questions about Snowden and his disclosures have framed the national discussion about domestic surveillance. Those disclosures have not resulted in any changes to U.S. domestic surveillance practices to date. Instead, the U.S. Justice Department has re-certified the programs in question as Americans discuss media talking points like—Is Snowden a traitor or a hero? A growing number of people are looking behind that media-generated framework, however, and are beginning to wonder if the right questions are even being asked. ......

The biggest hurdle to understanding the Snowden story has been the emotional reaction to asking questions about it. Those who have dared to question the story have been met with ridicule and misplaced condemnation.

Author Naomi Wolf asked some straightforward questions about Snowden’s slick introduction in comparison to other whistleblower stories. Her questions elicited derision from pundits, some even suggesting that if Wolf didn’t buy into Snowden then she must be an NSA operative.

Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds’ questions were met with ad hominem attacks from Greenwald. Writing that Edmonds was “too stupid and/or crazy to know,“ Greenwald summarily excused the founder of the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition from further dialogue on the issue. ......

Now, however, Greenwald labels those who question why the documents are being held back as “conspiracy theorists.” In Greenwald’s response, he rants about “people who cook up conspiracy theories” and how “deranged those theories are.” These comments reflect the position of Greenwald’s new media partner Jeremy Scahill with regard to questions about the official account for the 9/11 attacks. Scahill has publicly said that he believes questions about 9/11 are “insulting to the people who died on 9/11.” Scahill claims to be educated on such questions but apparently still doesn’t know that it was the 9/11 victims’ families who initiated such questioning and who continue to lead the search for answers. Complete article including related links


It wasn't that long ago that David Gregory tried to read Glenn Greenwald and The Guardian out of the journalism club; Gloria Allred claimed he wasn't being neutral when releasing information and Alan Dershowitz said Glenn Greenwald: "did this because he hates America." These claims didn't hold up to the most obvious scrutiny and they did more to discredit those making them than they did Glen Greenwald, assuming the people listening thought things through. If one relatively small group of journalists decides who is or is not eligible to be a journalist without reviewing all the facts especially ones that they might not like that is more biased than those being excluded. The claim that Glenn Greenwald might not be entirely unbiased might actually be true but neither are those that blindly go along with the program. In many cases the establishment media perception of neutrality isn't actually neutral at all; instead they often portray those that agree with the establishment neutral and those that disagree as biased.

Alan Dershowitz's claim that Glenn Greenwald "did this because he hates America," is even more absurd assuming the disclosure that he is making are legitimate which he didn't seem to challenge. The best interest of America involves allowing them to have all the information they need to participate in the decision making process and it doesn't involve covering up bad decisions based on false claims of "national security." For a long time I had the impression that Alan Dershowitz was a credible civil rights activist; however when I heard about his carefully staged torture hypothesis and started looking closer it became clear that the more I knew about him the less credible he actually was.

If anything they seemed to do more to add to Glenn Greenwald's credibility than to smear him, assuming the public took the time to think things through. A significant portion of the public has been falling for this propaganda for a long time but with the quality of it deteriorating that percentage almost certainly is decreasing. the bigger problem is that he didn't reveal enough or put it in its proper context by acknowledging the fact that ECHELON was much older than Prism.

Sibel Edmonds and Glenn Greenwald Twitter conversation (or a slightly different version of Sibel Edmonds and Glenn Greenwald Twitter conversation) did far more to damage Glenn Greenwald's credibility than either David Gregory or Alan Dershowitz; and it wasn't primarily because of what Sibel Edmonds had to say; instead it was how Glenn Greenwald responded by using ridicule without addressing her concerns properly which might indicate that he might not have been able to do so.

Jeremy Scahill also did more to raise doubts about himself than his critics could have when he attempted to use appeal to emotions by saying that questioning the official version of events on 9/11 is “insulting to the people who died on 9/11,” when some of the people who raised questions were relatives of those people and there are major overreactions even if the official story is true and additional questions about whether or not the activities of the U.S. government might have incited these attacks even if they were taken by surprise.

There are a growing number of claims that some of the leading alternative media outlets are "gate keepers," which might address some of the most important issues but then decline to go as far as they could or should in many cases. whether this is intentional or not there is ample evidence to indicate that there might be something to it. Some of these claims have surrounded the funding of many of these alternative media outlets, which may raise some legitimate concerns but in many cases the strongest evidence that something like this might be going on is that many of the best issues aren't being addressed by either the alternative media or the mainstream press. The inadequate coverage of ECHELON and Prism is a strong indicator that there might be something to this. Some of the people that are addressing these issues might not always seem as rational or credible, at least to some people but until more reputable sources start doing a better job addressing all the issues then it might be worth looking at some of the so called fringe sources once in a while.

If there is a single source that can be trusted for everything all the time I haven't found it; and occasionally I have found that some of the most absurd sources get somethings right, or perhaps close, when the more reliable ones are ignoring or misrepresenting them.

Unfortunately at least to some degree whether the intention was to confuse the issue and make most if not all people involved in this bickering and distract people from more important issues or not it seems to have accomplished that. To minimize this no one should try to imply that we should completely stop listening to one source or another or dismiss everything they say without consideration although in many cases it is necessary to chose priorities and Glen Greenwald and Jeremy Scahill have both lowered their own credibility with their own actions even though they have been among the best sources for a lot of information in the past. In all fairness I also have some doubts about some of the issues that Naomi Wolf has raised as well but that is part of the process of sorting through all this contradictory information.

Some of the most important issues isn't even related to the ECHELON or Prism program so even though some effort needs to be made to sort through this it shouldn't be allowed to distract people from more important issues including environmental damage and wars based on lies. In many cases there are more reliable sources about how they have lied about all wars going back decades and many people still haven't paid enough attention to it, and they might be the ones tat would be most easily distracted by this bickering. If many members of the public don't remember ECHELON properly they might also not remember the Pentagon Papers and the fact that they clearly indicate that the war in Vietnam was based on lies and had absolutely nothing to defend freedom or democracy; or they might not remember the Iran contra scandal and the Contra drug connection or the October surprise story that was not addressed properly by the political establishment in the first place.

If more people understood what our government has been doing then they might be much more outraged and that is almost certainly why there may be so much effort by so many people to keep them distracted.

If the most important things that Edward Snowden released wasn't news at all then why did they hype it up so much? Is he really a whistle blower at all or is this a massive social research project of some sort that reveals bits and pieces of the truth under a controlled basis mixed in with disinformation so that they have a minimum impact? These assumption seem absurd but the actions of our government are also absurd and some of the evidence to support the belief that something major is wrong with the way they're presenting it is enormous and obvious, so obvious that some people might think that they wouldn't do something so foolish, yet they appear to be doing just that.



As I finish writing this Obama has been promising to reel in the NSA's activities; there are a couple of problems with that. The NSA began these activities long before they're willing to acknowledge and they continue to misrepresent it repeatedly. When they discussed the possibility that they would establish "Total Information Awareness" or TIA they already had ECHELON up and running doing the same thing and when the public was outraged and they agreed not to start TIA, ECHELON was still running doing the same thing. It is just one of many broken promises and they have still done little or nothing to disclose the vast majority of their activities, except when they've been leaked and then they threaten the leakers even when they don't seem to be leaking anything new like Edward Snowden.

And of course we now know how Barack Obama keeps his campaign promises.

“When I'm president, one of the first things I'm going to do is call in my attorney general and say to him or her, I want you to review every executive order that was issued by George Bush, whether it relates to warrantless wiretaps or detaining people or reading e- mails, or whatever it is. I want you to go through every single one of them and if they are unconstitutional, if they're encroaching on civil liberties unnecessarily, we are going to overturn them. We're going to change them.” Candidate Obama in 2007

The following are some related articles; whether they're worth sorting through, instead of other stories about environmental destruction, war based on lies or how credible some of the sources might be is up to you to figure out.

Transcript of President Obama’s Jan. 17 speech on NSA reforms Transcript of President Obama’s Jan. 17 speech on NSA reforms

Glenn Greenwald—of all people!—lashes out against “conspiracy theories”

Legal Insurrection Beware Glenn Greenwald bearing leaks

ECHELON Today: The Evolution of an NSA Black Program Before PRISM there was ECHELON

Contradictory & Highly Troubling Questions on Guardian’s Snowden Coverage

Mr. Snowden, It’s Time to Come Out and Take a Stand Publicly as to Your Intentions

BFP Roundtable Video 2– Glenn Greenwald & Checkbook Journalism

Greenwald-Omidyar Joint Venture: The Blurring Lines Between Being A Source & Being A Journalist

NSA’s ECHELON: The Predecessor of PRISM

5 Reasons that Both Mainstream Media – and Gatekeeper “Alternative” Websites – Are Pro-War

Why I Can No Longer Defend Glenn Greenwald as Merely a Dupe in the Snowden Psyop

Manufactured Hero Edward Snowden: Losing my religion

Manufactered Hero Edward Snowden: Paving the Way for New CISPA

Echelon Spy Network Secrets To Be Revealed in Megaupload Copyright Case

Kim Dotcom claims US spied on him through Echelon

Project Echelon And Edward Snowden

How Did A Guy With A GED End Up With Top Secret Clearance At The NSA?

Is Glenn Greenwald’s Alternative Media Network Another CIA Mockingbird Operation?