Is there a connection between Helena Blavatsky and the Theosophical Society with Ancient Aliens, assuming aliens might have visited us thousands of years ago?
Or perhaps as Helena Blavatsky asked in "Isis Unveiled," "Where, Who, What is God?" which is part of the three leading objectives of the Theosophical Society; and, even though her claims about life on other planets have been proven false, assuming scientific research since she died in 1891 aren't completely made up, what connection does God have to ancient aliens, assuming either of them exist.
One of Helena Blavatsky's most popular quotes is, "There is no religion higher than truth," which clearly is a good idea, for everyone including atheists, members of the Theosophy Society or other religions, many that make similar claims, if they actually pursue it.
This should involve rational skepticism, but many of the highest profile people that claim to be rational skeptics limit their research to facts that support their own beliefs, which is the same thing they criticize in religious people.
Without going into the details of all the background and more complicated beliefs of the Theosophical Society this should be considered a reasonable objective for them and for other religions and even atheists, assuming God or Ancient Aliens exist and are having an influence on our society. If they don't exist, as many atheists believe, then atheists shouldn't be afraid to do the research, and if he does as religious people believe then neither should they.
Another reason why everyone should be more interested in figuring this out is that, even though it seems hard to believe, that there is such a thing as revelations or contact with alleged higher powers, like Masters Morya and Koot Hoomi, who Helena Blavatsky claims to have been in contact with, there are similar alleged revelations that founded major religions, including Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Mormons and many more including Constantine, who fought a war based on these alleged revelations and after winning that war allegedly with the help of the Christian God he made that the official religion of Rome.
And many more wars influenced directly or indirectly by these alleged revelations, whether they're real or not, have been fought since then, including the Crusades, Inquisitions, WWII, and the current so-called War on on Terror.
And God, or the Masters Morya and Koot Hoomi, assuming they exist, can't seem to find the time to say something like, "excuse me guys but this isn't working out so well; perhaps you might want to try some more rational methods to govern yourselves without fighting each other," or perhaps something even wiser.
The support for peaceful co-existence that members of the Theosophical Society are trying to bring about should be worth pursuing even if people can't agree on whether God exists or not, or what he's trying to accomplish and why.
Another major problem is that virtually all claims fall into one of two camps, either skeptics that claim or strongly imply that there is no God, or in this case Masters Morya and Koot Hoomi; and believers that claim that there is an all powerful God, of some sort, also believe that he's benevolent, worthy of worship and looking out for the best interest of humanity. If God was as powerful as the faithful claim and as benevolent surely he could maintain an open line of communication to explain his objectives and what his motive is.
For all practical purposes neither the believers or skeptics consider the possibility that there might be an advanced intelligence of some sort that has an undisclosed ulterior motive. Skeptics might justifiably cite this as evidence to prove that God can't possibly exist at all; and they often claim that "Extraordinary claims requires extraordinary evidence," which I agree with. To the best of my knowledge the strongest direct evidence of the Masters are the miracles or unexplained phenomena that they allegedly performed for Helena Blavatsky and many of her earlier associates along with a relatively small number of so-called mystics since then. However this alleged evidence can't be displayed to others, so they would be justified in not believing them.
Additional evidence might come in the long narrative of their history and, perhaps more important in the letters that were allegedly written by these so-called Masters; however that would take a lot of time to review and fact check.
However there is much simpler indirect evidence that is much more compelling and conclusive that should raise major doubts about the development of early society and indicate that there's a strong possibility that it was influence by an unknown advanced intelligence of some sort. That evidence is the massive megaliths, dozens if not hundreds over a hundred tons, that were moved by ancient societies despite dozens of experiments to replicate them that are almost all under ten tons, and the few that are larger only go up to forty tons, and they involved cheating; and if anything proved that they couldn't have been moved the way skeptics claim.
This evidence should raise major doubts about the official so-called scientific explanation for social evolution, although the vast majority of scientific research that doesn't directly address major unsolved mysteries is almost certainly much more reliable than research that is handled by some of the so-called skeptics that routinely claim to debunk things perceived as supernatural or paranormal.
This isn't enough to guarantee that many of the alternative conspiracy theories to traditional scientific explanations are true though, especially high profile ones like the ancient aliens theories presented by the History Channel which is full of obvious blunders; although once legitimate concerns about the traditional scientific explanation are raised, which they have it should be worth looking closer at other major unsolved mysteries, including many that started many religions, and contrary to what traditional scientists would have us believe these so called "revelations" are still allegedly happening to many people although we often consider them schizophrenic or something.
Reasonable skepticism to these alleged mystics is appropriate; however a close look at about a dozen of the most credible ones that I could find, mostly from the twentieth century with better records than many historical figures, indicates that although the believers in these skeptics almost always jump to too many conclusions there appear to some unsolved mysteries surrounding them that skeptics can't explain without distraction tactics or declining to even do the research, often making blunders as bad if not worse than the fringe believers they're attempting to debunk; in addition to Helena Blavatsky these mystics or unexplained events include Joseph Smith Jr. founder of the Mormon religion; Edgar Cayce the sleeping prophet; Padre Pio and Italian Stigmatic priest; Jose Arigo the alleged healer with a rusty knife; Edward Leedskalnin builder of Coral Castle; Uri Gellar spoon bender; Nikola Tesla associate of Thomas Edison and inventor of alternating current; The alleged Miracle of Fatima which might be a UFO incident; Gregory Efimovich Rasputin closely associated with Nochalas and Alexander, the last Tsar, and his wife; Bernadette Soubirous Seer of Lourdes; L. Ron Hubbard founder of Scientology; Joan of Arc; Michel de Nostredame and Leonardo da Vinci.
I reviewed many of them myself in Prophets and Mystics and if there are legitimate mystics there may be more; however I try to be skeptical about them and don't include any without finding something that appears as if other so-called skeptics can't explain even though many of the most far fetched conclusions about most if not all of them are almost certainly exaggerated or wrong.
At least six of these mystics, including Helena Blavatsky, involved alleged visions from advanced beings of some sort, often interpreted as being messengers from God or the spirit world, or something. In addition to these mystics having visions, at least half a dozen to a dozen of the followers of Helena Blavatsky, Joseph Smith Jr., Padre Pio, plus another dozen reported by Peter Washington, in Blavatsky's Baboon, dozens more Catholic Saints, and other historical figures including Mohammad, Paul and Jesus, have all claimed to have these revelations.
If there's nothing to the visions and no God or Ancient Aliens, as many skeptics believe, there has to be some other kind of sociological or psychological explanation for all these unsolved mysteries. And there has to be another explanation for other mysteries including Stigmata, bending spoons, or more megaliths being moved at Coral Castle etc.
If there is an unknown advanced intelligence of some sort influencing society, whether you call it God, Ancient Aliens or something else, there has to be an undisclosed motive and more to be explained. Many of these visions might involve hallucinations, illusions, or something; and they almost all have there stories told from one person to another before there's a credible investigation, assuming there ever is a credible investigation, which means that it's virtually guarantees that there are an enormous number of mistakes or contradictory versions of the events.
I have explained in past articles including Researching Poor, Slaves, Prisoners, To Benefit Ruling Class With Alien Technology?, which also has a list of most related articles before it, that there are more unsolved mysteries than traditional scientists are willing to acknowledge at any given time, perhaps with the exception of the Ancient Aliens series, although they make an enormous amount of blunders so obvious that I can't help but wonder if they're trying to do a good job. My past articles have often cited Philip Corso, who claims to have shared alien technology with corporations in a best selling book twenty years ago about a year before he died. This claim has some problems but there's good reason to believe that it might not be completely false, like a lot of the other major unsolved mysteries.
If this is partly true it's virtually guaranteed that a large amount of modern technology has been developed as a result of research with alien technology. It may also be possible that the aliens that provided the technology intentionally, or not, have been around for thousands of years and if they had some kind of extremely advanced technology they could have influenced the creation of ancient megalithic structures; and if there is an unknown advanced intelligence that is capable of creating something that appears to be what religious people consider "revelations" it might be these aliens. However, they clearly must have an undisclosed motive of some sort, otherwise they would have opened up an honest line of communication, and these alleged revelations aren't honest communications, as the evidence has shown, some of which I'll review below.
This doesn't mean that many religious people don't consider revelations to be honest methods of communication, which obviously they do, since they believe that "God" is more trustworthy than anyone else, even though they can't seem to figure out what he's trying to accomplish, due to his mysterious method of communication that often puts out contradictory messages. As Jacques Vallee has pointed out in at least a couple of his books, including "Messengers of Deception" if there is some unknown advanced intelligence communicating with some cult members, they're often communicating deceptive beliefs, many of which can be proven to be wrong. But it's also possible that they could mix up some pieces of truth mixed in with deceptive messages, which should mean that any alleged messages from so-called "revelations" should be viewed with skepticism, unless they can be confirmed or refuted independently.
This includes a well known quote among theosophists, or skeptics attempting to debunk their beliefs mentioned in Blavatsky Theosophy.com: "The Men from Other Planets," “About the Aryan Root-Race and its origins, Science knows as little as of the men from other planets. With the exception of Flammarion and a few mystics among astronomers, even the habitableness of other planets is mostly denied. Yet such great adept astronomers were the Scientists of the earliest races of the Aryan stock, that they seem to have known far more about the races of Mars and Venus than the modern Anthropologist knows of those of the early stages of the Earth.”
This quote came originally from “The Secret Doctrine,” Vol. 2 of 4 as the related article explains and it also provides a link to another article claiming that the Secret Doctrine was essentially from an alleged revelation of some sort from one or more of Helena Blavatsky's "Masters," although the explanation seems to be more confusing, assuming you trust the sources. However, some of the writings that come from leaders of the Theosophy Society or the alleged masters that may have relayed certain revelations to them, are far more sophisticated than a truly rational skeptic might expect from a nineteenth century conwoman, as many skeptics try claim Helena Blavatsky, and her fellow leaders of the Society were.
Regardless of where the ideas from the Secret Doctrine came from without additional information to either confirm or refute these claims, it might be appropriate to consider it a hypothetical; however when it comes to life on either Venus or Mars, we now have enough scientific research to know that both are uninhabitable ruling at least some of her claims out. I've only read a small portion of her writings myself, including some excerpts cited "H.P.B. The Extraordinary Life & Influence of Helena Blavatsky" by Sylvia Cranston, and a few additional excerpts on the internet, but a large portion of her writings appear to be a result of alleged revelations from the "Masters" and they attempt to reconcile differences between religion and science, in a far more sophisticated way than she should have been able to do without an enormous amount of help; however large portions of it have serious flaws.
Additional claims in her book can also be confirmed or refuted with research, some of which didn't take place until after her death, including another quote from the “The Secret Doctrine,” Vol. 2 of 4 shortly after the previous one, "from the upheaval of oceans, deluges, and shifting of continents, down to the present year's cyclones, hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tidal waves, and even the extraordinary weather and seeming shifting of seasons which are perplexing all European and American Meteorologists—are due to, and depend on the Moon and Planets; aye, that even modest and neglected constellations have the greatest influence on the meteorological and cosmical changes, over, and within our Earth ...." I don't know whether there was enough scientific research at the time to refute most of this but there is now, and even a basic understanding of meteorology should indicate that the tides are created by gravitational pull of the moon; however the rest of it has little or no impact on the weather, which means that it is is false, which is typical of many alleged revelations from so-called prophets, including Joseph Smiths Jr.'s (founder of Mormon religion) alleged translations of the Golden Plates and the Book of Abraham, which were proven to be false.
However shortly after that the Secret Doctrine says, "the Church and her arrogant servants could insist that the supposition that any other Planet could be inhabited should be regarded as blasphemy" which raises a legitimate point worth considering; and although modern science can't confirm that there is advanced life on other planets in other solar system it can confirm that it's a strong possibility; and we're rapidly developing the technology to send automated crafts to other planet, which if Corso is correct might be alien technology.
She also writes, "our cutting the Earth in pieces, opening canals, and thereby entirely changing our climates," at a time when she shouldn't have been aware of the potential for climate change and how it has a much bigger impact than the opening of canals and other changes that aren't nearly as severe as what she should have been aware of. One of the other possible objectives that I have previously written about in Hurricane Apocalypse Coming With or Without Fringe Conspiracy Theory is that if Climate Change is caused by human behavior then some degree of Geoengineering is already happening, intentionally or not, and if aliens have made contact then it could be part of a geoengineering research experiment.
For those not familiar with Helena Blavatsky and the Theosophy Society a couple of the most popular books written about them shortly after the hundred year anniversary of her death are "H.P.B. The Extraordinary Life & Influence of Helena Blavatsky" by Sylvia Cranston PDF written by a member of the Theosophy Society and "Madam Blavatsky's Baboon" by Peter Washington PDF a skeptic who may not be nearly as familiar with the subject, and apparently got many of his facts wrong, although some of his points were legitimate.
However I can't help but wonder why so many so-called skeptics, including Peter Washington, Michael Shermer, Joe Nickell and many more seem to display a lack of familiarity with the subject they claim to be debunking and often get their facts wrong or demonstrate that they haven't even researched the subject before coming to their conclusions are considered scientific by many mainstream academics. In many cases it's not hard for people without an advanced education to find ,many of their blunders, and they often pass up legitimate opportunities to raise doubts as a result of their lack of good research.
Whether a skeptic or believer, the three primary objectives seem like a reasonable goal, which basically summarizes her quote from Isis Unveiled, "Where, Who, What is God?" and this was made simple in a brief conversation cited by Sylvia Cranston in her book, which also indicates a willingness to allow for critical thinking which is contrary to the view of Helena Blavatky given by Peter Washington:
‘‘Madame,’’ she said, ‘‘what is the most important thing necessary
in the study of Theosophy?’’
‘‘Common sense, my dear.’’
‘‘And Madame, what would you place second?’’
‘‘A sense of humour.’’
‘‘And third, Madame?’’
At this point, patience must have been wearing thin.
‘‘Oh, just more common sense!’’
As written on the Theosophy Society's web-page The three declared Objects of the Theosophical Society are:
To form a nucleus of the universal brotherhood of humanity, without distinction of race, creed, sex, caste or color.
To encourage the comparative study of religion, philosophy and science.
To investigate unexplained laws of nature and the powers latent in humanity.
This seems like a rational goal, although Peter Washington claims "These goals are less straightforward and mutually compatible than they seem." (p.69 for full excerpt) raising some legitimate concerns about the first one and how it is implemented and whether it's merely a declaration of universal tolerance and raising questions about whether or not they will allow people that don't believe in a divine being. Some of the writings from Cranston's book of the Theosophy Society's web site implies that it's not nearly as authoritarian as many other religions dictating the truth to their followers, which might address his concerns assuming he's open to feedback; however his book doesn't seem to involve much if any interviewing of members of the Theosophy Society and a review from Notes on Madame Blavatsky's Baboon implies that if he had he could have corrected a lot of misunderstandings, without raising doubts about his own research.
However his last concern raises even more doubts, "Finally, the statement of all three implies that the Society is objective and non-partisan. This is of course nonsense. There is nothing objective about the study of occult phenomena by a society that has already decided that they exist and merely need to be located and explained." (p.69) He neglects to mention that they did do some research, although the evidence can't be passed on easily to those not present during this research, to confirm that there was some unexplained phenomena present; instead he claims or implies they made it all up without seeming to consider any other possibilities; nor does he attempt to explain why they made it all up, and the common dismissal that it's just superstition often seems less likely when looking closer into many of the details, which skeptics often simply decline to do.
Peter Smith showed obvious flaws in his research when he wrote, "Smith soon acquired followers whom he attempted to lead to the Promised Land. This was located at Carthage, a pleasant small town on the banks of the Mississippi, where the prophet was soon attracting thousands of converts." (p.51) It shouldn't have taken him much research at all to find out that Joseph Smith Jr. was attracting his followers to Nauvoo Ill., not Carthage, which was another nearby small town, that some of his followers fled to after exposing polygamy of their leaders and facing oppression from their own leaders. This is just one of many obvious blunders that Washington should have caught, and would have if he had checked with some people more familiar with a variety of subjects that he covers.
Rational debunking actually requires research, which a surprising number of so-called skeptics often decline to do; and if they did it might show that some of these unsolved mysteries are far more complicated than they realize, and that typical conmen or women shouldn't be able to come up with nearly as complicated a mythological belief system as either Joseph Smith Jr. or Helena Blavatsky did; and that they shouldn't have been able to deceive so many rational people as well as the gullible people as they did if it was a simple con.
If he had done more research he would have found that the Mormons have much more in common with the Theosophical Society, and that both of them aren't as easy to dismiss with ridicule; and the followers of both belief systems know it because they're far more familiar with the facts that so-called skeptics like Peter Washington routinely ignore or misrepresent. I may not agree with everything the Theosophical Society believes, however I suspect that Will Thackara's Notes on Madame Blavatsky's Baboon is far closer to the truth on many of the details including the rebuttal of the Hodgson Report, which Wikipedia confirms in addition to reports from Sylvia Cranston in her book.
However that doesn't mean that, assuming they did get visions or revelations of some sort or letters from an unknown advanced intelligence, which they refer to as the "universal brotherhood" or a few variations of that term, that this advanced intelligence is trustworthy and doesn't have an undisclosed motive. If this "universal brotherhood" does exist or something that appears like them then Jacques Vallee's claim that they might be "Messengers of Deception" for some unknown motive is worth serious consideration. And a closer look at why they shroud their activities in secrecy might, confirm this including the first letter that was allegedly sent to A.P. Sinnett from Koot' Hoomi Lal Singh which attempts to justify their secrecy, and refusal to create some kind of unexplained phenomena that might convert half of London if this phenomenon were carried out as described in the following letter:
Letter No. 1
Received Simla about October 15th, 1880.
Esteemed Brother and Friend,
Precisely because the test of the London newspaper would close the mouths of the skeptics — it is unthinkable. See it in what light you will — the world is yet in its first stage of disenthralment if not development, hence — unprepared. Very true, we work by natural not supernatural means and laws. But, as on the one hand Science would find itself unable (in its present state) to account for the wonders given in its name, and on the other the ignorant masses would still be left to view the phenomenon in the light of a miracle; everyone who would thus be made a witness to the occurrence would be thrown off his balance and the results would be deplorable. Believe me, it would be so — especially for yourself who originated the idea, and the devoted woman who so foolishly rushes into the wide open door leading to notoriety. This door, though opened by so friendly a hand as yours, would prove very soon a trap — and a fatal one indeed for her. And such is not surely your object?
Madmen are they, who, speculating but upon the present, wilfully shut their eyes to the past when made already to remain naturally blind to the future! Far be it from me, to number you with the latter — therefore will I endeavour to explain. Were we to accede to your desires know you really what consequences would follow in the trail of success? The inexorable shadow which follows all human innovations moves on, yet few are they, who are ever conscious of its approach and dangers. What are then to expect they, who would offer the world an innovation which, owing to human ignorance, if believed in, will surely be attributed to those dark agencies the two-thirds of humanity believe in and dread as yet? You say — half London would be converted if you could deliver them a Pioneer on its day of publication. I beg to say that if the people believed the thing true they would kill you before you could make the round of Hyde Park; if it were not believed true, — the least that could happen would be the loss of your reputation and good name, — for propagating such ideas.
...... We doubt not but the men of your Science are open to conviction; yet facts must be first demonstrated to them, they must first have become their own property, have proved amenable to their own modes of investigation, before you find them ready to admit them as facts. ....
.... As for human nature in general, it is the same now as it was a million of years ago ..... Your daily remark is, that one cannot be expected to believe unless he becomes an eye-witness. Would the lifetime of a man suffice to satisfy the whole world of skeptics? .....
I conclude by reminding you that such phenomena as you crave, have ever been reserved as a reward for those who have devoted their lives to serve the goddess Saraswati — our Aryan Isis. ..... Complete article
Received Simla about October 15th, 1880.
Esteemed Brother and Friend,
Precisely because the test of the London newspaper would close the mouths of the skeptics — it is unthinkable. See it in what light you will — the world is yet in its first stage of disenthralment if not development, hence — unprepared. Very true, we work by natural not supernatural means and laws. But, as on the one hand Science would find itself unable (in its present state) to account for the wonders given in its name, and on the other the ignorant masses would still be left to view the phenomenon in the light of a miracle; everyone who would thus be made a witness to the occurrence would be thrown off his balance and the results would be deplorable. Believe me, it would be so — especially for yourself who originated the idea, and the devoted woman who so foolishly rushes into the wide open door leading to notoriety. This door, though opened by so friendly a hand as yours, would prove very soon a trap — and a fatal one indeed for her. And such is not surely your object?
Madmen are they, who, speculating but upon the present, wilfully shut their eyes to the past when made already to remain naturally blind to the future! Far be it from me, to number you with the latter — therefore will I endeavour to explain. Were we to accede to your desires know you really what consequences would follow in the trail of success? The inexorable shadow which follows all human innovations moves on, yet few are they, who are ever conscious of its approach and dangers. What are then to expect they, who would offer the world an innovation which, owing to human ignorance, if believed in, will surely be attributed to those dark agencies the two-thirds of humanity believe in and dread as yet? You say — half London would be converted if you could deliver them a Pioneer on its day of publication. I beg to say that if the people believed the thing true they would kill you before you could make the round of Hyde Park; if it were not believed true, — the least that could happen would be the loss of your reputation and good name, — for propagating such ideas.
...... We doubt not but the men of your Science are open to conviction; yet facts must be first demonstrated to them, they must first have become their own property, have proved amenable to their own modes of investigation, before you find them ready to admit them as facts. ....
.... As for human nature in general, it is the same now as it was a million of years ago ..... Your daily remark is, that one cannot be expected to believe unless he becomes an eye-witness. Would the lifetime of a man suffice to satisfy the whole world of skeptics? .....
I conclude by reminding you that such phenomena as you crave, have ever been reserved as a reward for those who have devoted their lives to serve the goddess Saraswati — our Aryan Isis. ..... Complete article
This letter appears to be based on the assumption that the Brotherhood has been around for thousands of years and has been communicating with a small group of people at any given time, which wouldn't be necessary if they really were looking out for the best interest of mankind, as they claim, although members of the Society seem to overlook this like many other religious followers that believe their God is all powerful and benevolent. Neither the Masters, A.P. Sinnett or any other members of the Society seem to consider why, if these assumptions were true all along, the Masters or God wouldn't have maintained an open line of communication thousands of years ago and advised them on how to get along better long ago before the Crusades or Inquisitions were fought. If they did exist and had done this then it would have been much easier to convince the majority of people to listen, since they would have been accustomed to doing that thousands of years ago and passed it down from generation to generation without fighting all these wars over religion.
What could the Masters have gained for thousands of year by shrouding their activities in secret?
They don't seem to address this question at all that I know of, but at times Helena Blavatsky seems to be trying to rectify this as described in a letter she wrote about a discussion with someone that claimed that Jews wouldn't be welcome in Heaven saying, "The differences in religious dogmas, were created not by saints but by all-sinful mortals... [and] divide humanity into inimical nations and races. If there were no dogmas, there would also be no Protestants, Catholics, Buddhists, Brahmanists, etc.; all would believe in One God... all would regard themselves as brothers, . . . they would be ashamed before the rest of their brothers to kill and slaughter each other in wars, to torture each other like wild beasts, and to create a hell for another," Cranston p.106-7 which seems to make sense, but it's not quite true. If past prophets, including Rama, Krishna, Hermes, Moses, Orpheus, Pythagoras, Plato, and Jesus are messengers from God they inspired these religious dogmas, which she blames on sinful mortals, however if sinful mortals really did make these mistakes as she claims and the Masters were maintaining an honest line of communication through the centuries they could have corrected these mistakes as they went along, instead of allowing them to escalate to religious wars.
If the Brotherhood or benevolent God most people choose to believe in, existed and didn't have an undisclosed motive, it's difficult if not impossible to imagine why he would have withheld advise that could have prevented the Crusades, and after Blavatsky's time, two world wars and continued fighting since then. However the faithful that want to find a reason to believe routinely accept seriously flawed justifications.
One of these justifications was described in another article from Helena Blavatsky where she wrote, "The only thing I can say is that such a body exists, and that the location of their Brotherhoods will never be revealed to other countries until the day when humanity shall awake in a mass from its spiritual lethargy and open its blind eyes to the dazzling light of Truth." (Cranston p.137) Once again, the clear implication of this is that it's the fault of humanity for not being ready, but the reason they're not ready, assuming that's the problem is because they lack the education needed, because "God" is withholding it from them!
If you accept the writings of Helena Blavatsky, then it appears as if this brotherhood appears to be part of a control process that is using her for their own objectives, whatever that might be and she indicated this when she writes, ‘‘it is not I who talk and write; it is something within me, my higher and luminous Self, that thinks and writes for me.’’ (Cranston p.150) According to Professor Corson "She herself told me that she wrote them down as they appeared in her eyes on another plane of objective existence, that she clearly saw the page of the book, and the quotation she needed, and simply translated what she saw into English." Several other sources have provided similar accounts including an amusing question "what is a pi?" to her niece who didn't realize she was referring to a mathematical question, until she looked at what she was writing which had "π=31'4159," (Cranston p.311-2) she pointed out that the apostrophe, which she called a comma, was misplaced by one spot, without pointing out that it should have been a decimal point. Helena Blavatsky, once again explained that she didn't understand a large portion of what she was writing, she was just allegedly copying it from visions or revelations of some sort.
Although most of Helena Blavatsky's claims about how she received these messages are similar to alleged Revelations provided in many religions that are interpreted as divine truth, despite the fact that they often contradict each other, the Preface to the Secret Doctrine says, "These truths are in no sense put forward as a revelation; nor does the author claim the position of a revealer of mystic lore, now made public for the first time in the world's history." (p. xx)Secret Doctrine, Vol. 1 of 4 (These excerpts were selected by Cranston p.349-51, however she apparently selected several excepts throughout the first volume.) When there are contradictory messages, from both believers and skeptics, it is often necessary to use the best judgement and be prepared to adapt when additional information comes along; however there appears to be the possibility that this might be a massage from an unknown advanced intelligence attempting to change religious views, while simultaneously claiming that all past "revelations" were also true and worthwhile, in an Orwellian way of saying something like "We are now at War with East Asia; we have always been at war with East Asia," after previously been allied with East Asia.
Blavatsky admits that "has many shortcomings," and claims that this doctrine is only a portion of ancient texts being revealed to the public through her, for some reason, although she doesn't fully explain that reason. However the clear implication is that they're selectively revealing certain information to be passed on to those that are interested without opening up a complete and honest line of communication, and that there is much more information available which the Masters are withholding from the public, although presumably Helena Blavatsky seems to be doing the best she knows how to pass on what she can, without questioning the motives of her Masters.
This could be interpreted as meaning that it should not be considered divine truth that is above reproach, and this is later confirmed when she writes ".... the “Wise Men” of the Fifth Race, of the stock saved and rescued from the last cataclysm and the shifting of continents, passed their lives in learning, not teaching. How did they do so? It is answered: by checking, testing, and verifying, in every department of Nature, the traditions of old, by the independent visions of great Adepts; that is to say, men who have developed and perfected their physical, mental, psychic, and spiritual organizations, to the utmost possible degree." (Secret Doctrine v.1 p.294) Some of this indicates they're recommending scientific methods, which is not typical of religious indoctrination, which typically teaches the faithful to believe what they're told without question, even when it's contradictory or against the interests of the human race. At the time she wrote this science may not have fully explained continental drift, but it appears as if some of her claims are about lost civilizations that may never have existed at all, which might have been one of the shortcomings of this book, or a "message of deception," as Vallee might say.
This claim that her writings are being controlled by some kind of higher power is repeated over and over again throughout her writings, indicating that some of these mystics are being controlled by these higher powers. This isn't unique to Helena Blavatsky, Padre Pio and numerous other mystics, perhaps including Edgar Cayce and Jose Arigo also claim to be controlled by a higher power and many of these mystics speak of this as if they think it is a worthy goal, although they don't seem to know what God's plan is or why he's going about it.
A large number of people claim to have seen an enormous amount of activity which they considered paranormal, however, as indicated in the first Mahatma Letter to A.P. Sinnett, none of this can be shown to people that don't witness it firsthand. If there is no paranormal activity or influence from an unknown advanced intelligence as many skeptics believe then there is still an unusual social and psychology phenomena that enabled a small handful of these belief systems like the Mormons or Theosophy Society to expand into a large belief system. If these was an unexplained phenomena, caused by an unknown advanced intelligence of some sort the strongest remaining evidence of it appears to be the letters themselves. Apparently "Thirteen hundred pages of these letters now repose in the rare manuscript department of the British Library." (Cranston p.221) There were also additional letters sent to other people including Colonel Olcott, William Quan Judge, and many other people, which was enough to fill up several books, in addition to "the Mahatma Letters," if they were all published.
On top of that "Isis Unveiled," "The Secret Doctrine," additional correspondents and books by several of the leaders of this society would have amounted to an astronomical effort to fabricate the whole thing, which seems to be what many skeptics believe, including Richard Hodgson, author of the "Hodgson Report," which describes Helena Blavatsky "as one of the most accomplished, ingenious, and interesting impostors in history." However a hundred years later Vernon Harrison, a modern member of the Society for Psychical Research supposedly debunked his claiming he was biased and unscientific. (Cranston p.265-77 also confirmed in Wikipedia)
To the best of my knowledge there hasn't been a more credible study to determine if the hand writing of many of these letters are from the historical figures associated with them, or to figure out if they're from different people with each alleged Master using a different hand writing style. After searching the internet I found several reviews, mostly from supporters, that appear to show obvious biased, one from a critic went to a lot of trouble to show how unbiased he was, although there is still doubt about that.
Whether this is a result of contact from an unknown advanced intelligence of some sort, it required an astronomical amount of effort, from numerous people, to put together all this material. If this is a result of contact with an unknown advanced intelligence of some sort it had a major impact on the actions of followers and they already related an enormous amount of information through these letters and books, although that doesn't make it all trustworthy, as many of the faithful believe, since it's virtually guaranteed that the unknown advanced intelligence clearly has an undisclosed motive and is sending out contradictory messages.
One of the most important goals of Theosophical Society is to create what they call a universal brotherhood living in peace as described in her letter to William Quan Judge, "On the day when Theosophy will have accomplished its most holy and most important mission — namely, to unite firmly a body of men of all nations in brotherly love and bent on a pure altruistic work, not on a labor with selfish motives — on that day only will Theosophy become higher than any nominal brotherhood of man." She goes on to say, "Orthodoxy in Theosophy is a thing neither possible nor desirable. It is diversity of opinion, within certain limits, that keeps the Theosophical Society a living and a healthy body, its many other ugly features notwithstanding." This clearly implies that her teachings aren't nearly as authoritarian as Peter Washington tries to imply especially when he compares her to G.I. Gurdjieff, who is much more authoritarian. Washington goes into detail about about how abusive Gurdjieff is, and often compares him in selective details to Blavatsky; however there are other sources that indicate that she's not nearly as abusive as him, which he omits.
However, making up stories about a Supernatural Brotherhood, assuming the skeptics are correct, isn't the most effective way to accomplish this, nor would it be more effective, assuming her Masters do exist for them to communicate in this manner, which predictably leads to numerous arguments which could ache been avoided if they communicated openly with everyone, further indicating that if they exist they have an undisclosed motive.
By refusing to maintain an open line of communication with all people the Masters, assuming they exist, enabled the Coulumb affair that led to the Hodgson Report; and it also enabled another argument where people from both sides were citing alleged claims that the Maters were communicating through them, and may have even relayed a prophecy through another mystic. According to Sylvia Cranston "In June of 1889, HPB wrote: A curious prophecy was made to me, in 1879, in India, by a mystic who said that every letter in the alphabet had either a beneficent or a maleficent influence on the life and work of every man." (Cranston 370-8) This alleged prophecy seems to be shrouded in riddles that make no sense, like many other alleged prophecies; however, Cranston or Blavatsky go on to describe a dispute with several people with names beginning with C including Mabel Collins who also claimed to be receiving revelations instructing her to write "Light on the Path" which was part of the dispute. If they believe the revelations from Masters are real, then this raises the possibility that the alleged Masters are sending messages that contributed to this argument and helped bring about the actions fulfilling the alleged prophecy, which would make it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
After Helena Blavatsky's death there were more arguments where the Masters took sides as described by Peter Washington who writes, "When Master Morya wrote to Olcott ordering him to retain the presidency, Master Koot Hoomi wrote to Judge encouraging him to depose the colonel." (Washington p.103) Another account was written about this event in 1894 "Isis Very Much Unveiled, Being the Story of the Great Mahatma Hoax" By Fydell Edmund Garrett This lead to an enormous amount of bickering, which if the Masters were real they could have easily predicted, or avoided with an open line of communication assuming they didn't have an ulterior motive that might have involved manipulating their followers in a divide and rule tactic.
This constant bickering is enough to make many people dismiss the Theosophical Society in their entirety; however they do come up with some decent ideas, as described in an interview with Charles Johnston, where she says, "We invade their lands, and shoot them down in sight of their own homes; we outrage their women, and rob their goods, and then with smooth-faced hypocrisy we turn round and say we are doing it for their good. But there is a just law," (Cranston p.227-32) and numerous other morals that were far better than the morals at that time or even now. She also goes on to warn, "There is the danger of black magic, into which all the world, and especially America, is rushing as fast as it can go. Only a wide knowledge of the real psychic and spiritual nature of man can save humanity from grave dangers." Cranston adds, "Hitler and his leading Nazis used the black arts, it is said, in carrying out the policies of the Third Reich, as did the Chinese Communists. Hypnotic brainwashing is a common practice." and there were similar claims from additional mystics over the decades since she died, including some that were members of the Theosophical Society and others that only vaguely associated themselves with it or ran different cults, often claiming that they were in contact with supernatural Masters as well.
But it wasn't necessarily the "black arts" that caused atrocities either before Blavatsky lived, like the Crusades or Inquisitions, or after she died including the Holocaust which many people claim that she predicted. Whether the Masters are real or not the antisemitism and religious zeal that lead to these atrocities were inspired by earlier religious leaders including Jesus, who Blavatsky claims was one of the greatest Masters. The Catholic Church encouraged the antisemitism that eventually lead to the Holocaust, and Protestants were just as antisemitic in most cases.
According to Peter Washington Rudolf Steiner claimed "Dark Forces" brought about WWI "despite the best efforts of helpless statesmen," ( Washington p.163) and G.I. Gurdjieff "attributed the war to occult powers – more specifically to hostile planetary influence – but he also argued that, because of all these occult forces, there was nothing individuals could do about the situation directly, be they peasants or cabinet ministers." (Washington p.180) Both Steiner and GurdJieff claimed to have been in contact with some kind of higher power that influenced their teachings. However if this higher power does exists and it didn't have an ulterior motive it could have done a much better job communicating with humanity and providing better advice that could have avoided many atrocities including the Holocaust. There must be a more diplomatic way of saying that "either God doesn't exist, or he knowingly withheld advise that could have avoided most of the atrocities in history including the Crusades Inquisitions, and Holocaust, therefore if this God exists he must be a major league asshole," but I'm not sure what it is.
Richard Gabriel attempted to make a similar point in “Bible Battles” on the History Channel when he said, “How does one reconcile that with the idea that some people use the bible as a guide to their life? Well, one would either have to admit that history is wrong, and I don’t think that it is, or that God is a savage creature, in that the instruction of the bible is certainly full of enough violence to give rise to the question of what kind of a God, if there is one, would permit this?” in response to Joshua 6:21, talking about exterminating everyone; however his statements could have applied to many historical events since then. If there is an advanced intelligence that's been communicating with religious leaders for thousands of years and it has the ability to appear astrally, make these letters appear in mysterious ways, or create some of the mystical events attributed to it, then this advanced intelligence could have done a much better job guiding the human race, assuming it's goal was in the best interests of the human race.
If, on the other hand skeptics are right and this unknown advanced intelligence doesn't exist there has to be another explanation for how they control their followers, and other mystical events allegedly surrounding them.
Peter Washington may not realize it but he came close to explaining how some of these cult leaders control their followers when he wrote "This role also explains the father’s greatest gift to his son, according to its recipient: a harsh domestic regime which taught the boy how to take care of himself in a hostile adult world. Cold baths and early rising were the order of the day, supported by severe punishments for non-compliance. …… These rough methods he was later to reproduce with his own followers." (Washington p.173)
As I explained previously Dobson’s Indoctrination Machine, and several other articles this is part of very old tactics used to teach people how to indoctrinate their children. One of the most important aspect of cult indoctrination doesn't involve anything paranormal or supernatural at all and can be explained with child psychology from reliable traditional sources like Alice Miller, Philip Corso, Barbara Coloroso and more credible academic sources that focus on early child rearing techniques. Unfortunately these good researchers get very little attention from the traditional media or even a large portion of the other segments of the scientific community, including the so-called skeptics that could do a much better job debunking large portions of fringe beliefs and explaining, as Michael Shermer says, "Why People Believe Weird Things."
Basically what my previous article pointed out is that authoritarian parents often teach their children to obey orders and believe what they're told by relying on corporal punishment and other abusive and often emotional child rearing tactics. This is also a major contributing cause for violence later in life and blind support for wars based on lies from politicians. The Dobson article also points out how this teaches children to follow their leaders even when it means destroying the environment against the best interests of the majority, and when it is obviously not "pro-life" to support policies that poison the working class or kill people in these wars based on lies.
This research along with other historical research also shows how social activities set the stage so that the Holocaust, which many people believe that Nostradamus, Helena Blavatsky and other mystics predicted in their alleged prophecies came about, indoctrinating large numbers of people through violent and controlling upbringing to blindly obeying orders and accomplishing their goals through violence. The same abusive upbringing that teaches authoritarian beliefs also increases paranoia and makes people more susceptible to racism which is a major contributing cause to the holocaust. It wasn't the new religions, like the Theosophical Society that were the most obedient and violent, it was the old ones.
However this doesn't explain many of the other phenomena surrounding many of these so-called mystics, though; which might explain why so-called skeptics like Michael Shermer avoid educating the public about it; he often uses many of the same distraction techniques to divert attention from research that doesn't support his beliefs just like religious people or conspiracy theorists he disagrees with. The strongest evidence surrounding Helena Blavatsky's alleged mystic abilities is the letters, which can be confusing to confirm or refute; however the megaliths moved by Edward Leedskalnin, stigmata demonstrated by Padre Pio, spoon bending by Uri Geller, Incident at Fatima, UFO claims researched by Jacques Vallee, and many other unexplained phenomena are much harder to explain when taking a closer look at many of the details.
If on the other hand there is one or more unknown advanced intelligence influencing our evolution, then it could begin to explain a lot of these unexplained phenomena, which might have some common causes in common, even if there's an enormous amount of variation. The good versus evil hypothesis, which is a variation of the "Dark Forces" or "black magic" beliefs of Steiner, GurdJieff, The Theosophy Society, and many other religions has been around for thousands of years in one form or another and it has been repeated by some UFO researchers, including Linda Moulton Howe, who claims that she believes there are some aliens that are looking out for the best interests of mankind and others that want to destroy it, although she fails to explain their motive.
If she's partly correct, then how can we tell the good from the evil? Simple if the good were as interested in our best interests as the good versus evil hypothesis typically claims, then they would communicate honestly and warns us of what is going on and why so we would recognize the "dark forces," which creates an obvious problem, since we would have known about that, indicating that the good versus evil hypothesis is seriously flawed.
If there was an unknown advanced intelligence of some sort that influenced our development and the Bible, then that would have included the Proverbs that were mostly attributed to Solomon, and were among the child rearing techniques that I mentioned in Dobson’s Indoctrination Machine, which could have been part of the guidance to teach leaders how to control the masses and this would have contributed to the blind obedience that led to Crusades, Inquisitions, Holocaust and propping up of other tyrants that have been supported by religious leaders for thousands of years.
Anyone that has watched the Ancient Aliens series and has a minimal amount of background in science, including archaeology or many other related fields, must have noticed that they make an enormous amount of obvious blunders; however there are also a lot of major unexplained mysteries, and even with all these blunders it doesn't disprove the basic theory. As I explained in previous articles, this might be part of an effort to confuse the issue to ensure that it isn't considered seriously until it suits the purposes of those controlling the limited disclosure, enabling them to make it look like irrational fringe beliefs to those that don't research it well enough.
If there is something to this, and contact was made at Roswell or several other times in the forties and alien technology was exchanged, either as a result of reverse engineering or intentional sharing of technology from the aliens, then it could begin to explain some of these unsolved mysteries. As I explained in past articles including Researching Poor, Slaves, Prisoners, To Benefit Ruling Class With Alien Technology? and Hurricane Apocalypse Coming With or Without Fringe Conspiracy Theory if ancient aliens have been influencing our society for thousands of years and are responsible for many, if not all, of these unsolved mysteries one of their motives could be advanced research that they might not be inclined to do on their own planet, including research on manipulating DNA or impacting evolution, or if climate change is caused by man then it indicates that some form of geoengineering is possible and they could be researching that.
This isn't a guarantee, of course, but it does explain the rapid development of technology over several decades, a lot of unsolved mysteries, including how many ancient monuments were built, and some of the disclosures about sharing technology from aliens and research into climate change.
This theory also explains the motive behind many of these unexplained mysteries; and it it's partly true it also indicates that there could be some benefit for society if it's exposed and people are prepared to deal with the truth in the best way possible, since this technology could be used to dramatically improve the quality of life, if our leaders stop putting ulterior motives ahead of the best interests of the majority.
But if it's not true, then there are still other unexplained mysteries that need to be explained and there's still another undisclosed motive by many of our leaders, whether it's greed and ideological fanaticism or something else. There should be some things that most people should be able to agree on including the demand for disclosure of what our government and multinational corporations are doing and why; the end of environmental destruction for profits; and wars based on lies; an economic system based on honesty and equal opportunity for all; and a democratic and media establishment where all ideas and candidates have a chance to be heard and more. But none of this is happening because the political and media establishment is obsessed with one scam after another!
If this is somewhat close to the truth then it's virtually guaranteed that the CIA or other covert organizations are heavily involved in the cover up and controlled disclosure. If so the roots for a connection between mysticism and contact with aliens might go back beyond their first contact. According to Peter Washington one of the mystics he wrote about, John Godolphin Bennett, who was in British intelligence during the first World War and early twenties, "lived much of his life in a twilight zone where intelligence work blended into a vague belief in hidden brotherhoods and occult societies." (Washington p.195-6)
This was, of course, before the establishment of the CIA, or even the OSS, or the first alleged contacts with UFOs including Roswell; however he lived until 1974, and it's virtually guaranteed that they would have at least researched him as much as they could if they thought there was a connection. Washington claimed that this possible connection between the intelligence community also applied to "other people in this book," however if this is true the book doesn't explain which other people were also involved in the intelligence community and the majority of the events took place before the modern intelligence institutions took their post World War II agenda, which might have included alleged contact with aliens at Roswell or elsewhere. But if there was exchanges of advanced technology it must have been a massive undertaking of some sort.
If there is some truth to this theory, are they ever planning to disclose it? If they were willing to do it in the most credible manner possible, preparing the majority of the public to accept harsh realities about how and why their religious beliefs came about it's virtually out of the question that this would be it; however if they convinced many of the faithful to believe some of these absurd things they might have even convinced themselves to believe some of them too. This might have included a bizarre satires, as I attempted to explain in Yes Virginia There Is A Trump And Clinton Conspiracy two years ago, which started with a rational conspiracy based on credible reporting, and also included an absurd conspiracy theory, which should have fallen apart, but if anything it's only become more credible, and more recently, Is this for real? Or Insane Reverse Psychology Experiment Or Research? which follows up by pointing out how insane our political and media establishment has become since then, and the fact that the official version of truth is as insane if not more insane than some well researched conspiracy theories, even if they do deal with hard to believe phenomenon.
Some of this absurd speculation includes the possibility that the CIA or political establishment has been creating a clownish simulation of the Apocalypse with the moving of the embassy to Jerusalem and with Donald Trump defeating the "Whore of Babylon before getting "hurled alive into the fiery lake of burning sulphur," as the Apocalypse said, which is increasingly looking like real possibility, or a more comical satire of that, now that he's taken Putin's side against the political establishment in an insane charade that makes no sense but some people might be laughing too hard to worry about it.
This sounds like something insane fringe conspiracy theorists come up with like a fringe Christian group Cutting Edge: Events foretold in The 1995 Illuminati Card Game that are about to happen. but for some odd reason the CIA reposted this on their own web page, CIA website reposted: Subtitle: Events foretold in The 1995 Illuminati Card Game that are about to happen, without providing any disclaimer or explanation as to why they posted it there, which some people might interpret as adding credibility to it, although it shouldn't be hard to figure out, as I did, that it wasn't officially from the CIA, they just saved a copy; but why would they post it publicly.
However if none of this is even close to the truth, then there still have to be other explanation for all the unexplained phenomena; and if the so-called traditional skeptics like Michael Shermer or Joe Nickell can't explain these mysteries without either ignoring the toughest ones, or coming up with an explanation even more senseless than the supposedly fringe conspiracy theories, then this is as good if not better than anything they come up with!
None of this makes any sense at all; but when the official version of truth is more insane than conspiracy theories and there's hard credible evidence of major unsolved mysteries, and more evidence to indicate that some more far-fetched things might be much closer to the truth than most reasonable people would believe, then it's at least worth considering different possibilities to get to the truth.
Alleged message from translation of this Crop Circle: “Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts and their BROKEN promises. Much PAIN but still time. (Damaged word). There is GOOD out there. We OPPOSE DECEPTION. Conduit CLOSING. (Bell sound).” However if they really did oppose deception, as they claim, they would communicate in a more honest manner than riddles like this!
The following are some additional sources for this article:
Wikipedia: The Mahatma Letters to A.P. Sinnett
The Theosophical Roots of the Ancient Astronaut Theory from The Secret Doctrine H. P. Blavatsky Helena Petrovna Blavatsky knew a good racket when she saw one and decided that the best way to make money was to start a cult.
The three declared Objects of the Theosophical Society:
The Objectives of The Theosophical Society
The Fake Photo To the best of my knowledge no photos were ever taken of the "Masters" all images are supposedly artistic drawings based on descriptions.
Sylvia Cranston, or Anita Atkins Obituary
“The Secret Doctrine,” Vol. 2 of 4 We shall probably be told that by the term “worlds,” the stars, heavenly bodies, etc., were meant. But apart from the fact that “stars” were not known as “worlds” to the ignorant editors of the Epistles, even if they must have been thus known to Paul, who was an Initiate, a “Master-Builder,” we can quote on this point an eminent Theologian, Cardinal Wiseman. In his work (i. 309) treating of the indefinite period of the six days—or shall we say “too definite” period of the six days—of creation and the 6,000 years, he confesses that we are in total darkness as to the meaning of this statement of St. Paul, unless we are permitted to suppose that allusion is made in it to the period which elapsed between the first and second verses of chapter i of Genesis, and thus to those primitive revolutions, i.e., the destructions and the reproductions of the world, indicated in chapter i of Ecclesiastes; or, to accept, with so many others, and in its literal sense, the passage in chapter i of Hebrews, that speaks of the creation of “worlds”—in the plural. It is very singular, he adds, that all the cosmogonies should agree to suggest the same idea, and preserve the tradition of a first series of revolutions, owing to which the world was destroyed and again renewed.
The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett from the Mahatmas Morya & Koot Hoomi PDF
The Mahatma Letters to A. P. Sinnett from the Mahatmas Morya & Koot Hoomi HTML
The Writing Of The Mahatma Letters By A.Trevor Barker 1938
Who Wrote the Mahatma Letters? by Harold Edward Hare and William Loftus Hare 1936 ...... We find that whoever wrote the Mahatma Letters, the Mahatmas did not.
from The Theosophist June 1967 Madame Blavatsky and the Mahatma Letters By Hugh Shearman
HPB, Handwriting and the Mahatma Letters, Part 1 July 19, 2016 Joseph Dewey
Who Are the Inner Plane Adepti or Masters? 03/26/2014
Letters from the Masters of the Wisdom first series
Letters from the Masters of the Wisdom second series
The Final Mahatma Letter
Theosophy World E-Books
Reminiscences of H. P. Blavasky: and The Secret Doctrine - Countess C. Watchmeister
William Quan Judge: A Biographical Sketch
Did Rudolf Steiner Channel the Masters? 07/03/2016
The 25 Rules of Disinfo
1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don’t discuss it — especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it’s not reported, it didn’t happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.
2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the “How dare you!” gambit.
3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such “arguable rumors”. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a “wild rumor” which can have no basis in fact.
4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left-wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues. .....
A War For Truth begins with the Questions.
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ReplyDeleteThese three comments were not removed by me; I believe they were removed by the anonymous person that wrote them, which may have been the same person that left his fourth comment on the same day.
DeleteThis article should not have been written you do not see this in the right light. There is something very different about the theosophical movement there is no proper archetype to relate it to. Your interested is with the mundane aspects of this great movement esoteric wisdom has never been divulged in such a clear, essential and intricate manner. Your points are mostly irrevelant the ideas are pure logic there is nothing to contend with. There is no religion higher than truth.
ReplyDeleteThe truth will stand up to scrutiny, so if there's a specific issue you object to let me know.
DeleteCalls for censorship are incompatible with trying to find the truth.
"Regardless of where the ideas from the Secret Doctrine came from without additional information to either confirm or refute these claims, it might be appropriate to consider it a hypothetical; however when it comes to life on either Venus or Mars, we now have enough scientific research to know that both are uninhabitable ruling at least some of her claims out. I've only read a small portion of her writings myself, including some excerpts cited "H.P.B. The Extraordinary Life & Influence of Helena Blavatsky" by Sylvia Cranston, and a few additional excerpts on the internet, but a large portion of her writings appear to be a result of alleged revelations from the "Masters" and they attempt to reconcile differences between religion and science, in a far more sophisticated way than she should have been able to do without an enormous amount of help; however large portions of it have serious flaws."
ReplyDeleteModern science is incapable of proving whether or not other planets are inhabitable, because the instruments they use are only able to detect the grossest forms of matter. Beings such as OURSELVES wouldn't be able to survive on other planets but can science prove that there aren't other beings that exist in a super-sensuous state of matter? I think not, and until proven otherwise, the claim is far from ruled out as you assume. You admit that you've barely studied the Theosophical Teachings and yet you make the erroneous and ignorant claim that large portions if it have serious flaws! If you've only read small portions, how can you know this to be true? Where's the logic in that? It sounds like you've had your thinking done for you my friend, for the most part anyway. The truths contained in the Theosophical Teachings have stood up to scrutiny as well as survived the rise and fall of civilisations for thousands of years, and will continue to do so because it is the most logical explanation for the existence of the Universe and ourselves. When applied to the great problems of life, it solves them, but you have to have studied it in depth to understand how and why it's able to do so. Any person capable of thinking for themselves, and with an open mind, will not only find your article to be flawed, but will also find that the study of the Theosophical literature and the PRACTICAL application of the teachings contained therein will provide satisfactory proof for the claims it makes.
I do have enough information available to draw some conclusions. The Secret Doctrine & Isis Unveiled are long book that don't make complete sense like many other alleged revelations following a pattern of behavior.
ReplyDeleteSome of them have some good ideas mixed in and often can't be completely dismissed as many skeptics try to do, nor can they be completely believed.
Not that I expect everyone to agree with me.
My friend, unless you've studied it in depth and can therefore claim to have a fairly solid understanding of what the teachings are, and whether the evidence provided in the many footnotes corroborates them or not, you do not have enough information to draw conclusions either for or against them. The most probable reason as to why it doesn't make complete sense to you is because you've approached it with preconceived ideas, which is quite evident to see throughout your post.
DeleteIf you intend to write such an article against a work of such magnitude, which is not only consistently logical, but is also backed up by a considerable amount of evidence, then I suggest you make sure you know what you're talking about. You've proven by your very own hand that you were unprepared for the task at which you set yourself to, and as a result your arguments are inconsistent in their logic and are wanting in verifiable evidence that isn't based off of second hand information and the erroneous opinions of "experts".
I have studied the subject enough to KNOW that my faith in the truths contained therein WAS and IS not misplaced, but it's for each individual to discover that for themselves.
If looked enough into basic fundamental science to know there's flaws in some of her alleged revelations; also, as the article points out the method of communication chosen by the alleged "Masters" or what ever you want to call them isn't the most honest way to communicate, which raises credibility questions.
DeleteFurthermore, all your concerns seem to be very general without addressing any of the details I wrote in the article. But feel free to choose your own beliefs.
If you don't have a good grasp of what the "alleged revelations" are, which you admit yourself that you don't, then how can you know that the basic fundamentals of science prove them to be wrong? Lets see what a professional scientist has to say on the reliability of scientific proof. Here is a quote from an article written by Geraint Lewis, a Professor of astrophysics:-
Delete"In the mathematical sense, despite all the years of researching the way the universe works, science has proved nothing. Every theoretical model is a good description of the universe around us, at least within some range of scales that it is useful. But exploring into new territories reveals deficiencies that lower our belief in whether a particular description continues to accurately represent our experiments, while our belief in alternatives can grown. Will we ultimately know the truth and hold the laws that truly govern the workings of the cosmos within our hands? While our degree of belief in some mathematical models may get stronger and stronger, without an infinite amount of testing, how can we ever be sure they are reality?"
And to quote one of the greatest physicists, Richard Feynman:-
"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty about different things, but I’m not absolutely sure of anything."
Modern science is not on as sure a footing as many seem to think it is.
To address your next point, the method of communication used by the Masters has very little to do with whether or not the teachings they brought forth through Helena Blavatsky are legitimate.
In Matthew 7:16-20 KJV it says, Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
The teachings speak for themselves my friend.
Regarding your final point, please see my first reply above where I specifically address TWO details in your article, but as you failed to sufficiently answer my questions, my response was a critique of the whole article in general, addressing certain details on how you've gone about formulating it, which is a fundamental part.
Yes it's true that I didn't read the enormous volume of work she wrote, but I read enough to see serious problems with it. I do agree that many scientists have been too quick to dismiss things they can't explain, especially when it comes to mystics or UFOs, which is why I keep an open mind to some thing unexplained.
DeleteHowever, if there is an unknown advanced intelligence influencing the human race, whether you cal them the "Masters," "Brotherhood," God, aliens or anything else, if they were looking out for our best interest they would communicate better, unless they have an undisclosed motive that isn't in our best interests.
Well, Theosophy is the only system I've come across in my search for truth that has answers to the great questions of life as I've said already. Having studied the subject, the answers to most, if not all of the problems you've mentioned in your article are to be found throughout the teachings, and in their synthesis. I encourage you to at least re-evaluate your decision not to study them in their entirety.
DeleteI don't believe in a personal God, nor aliens, and Theosophy teaches neither. Theosophy does however, teach the existence of advanced, spiritual beings who are imperceptible to our physical senses, and there exists a universal hierarchy of which we are a part of. It was certain beings such as these, higher up in the hierarchy, that descended to Earth and taught man the arts and sciences thousands of years ago and were involved in the construction of the megalithic structures scattered around the world. It's a perfectly logical teaching and explains why we're here, what we really are, whence we came and where we're heading.
There are logical reasons as to why these beings don't, or rather CAN'T help the human race as much as some would like them to, and one of those reasons is due to the laws that govern the universe and everything in it. If you want answers to your questions, I've told you where you can find them.
I wish you all the best my friend.
I'll think about looking closer at her books when I have time, or if I get a print copy, but there're still questions about the motives of spiritual beings who don't communicate with most people.
ReplyDeleteAs long as they have reasons why they can't communicate in an open manner then I have reasons for thinking they must have an undisclosed motive.
Best to you as well.