Did Padre Pio Or Other Alleged Mystics Have "Revelations" from "God?"

Padre Pio is most famous for his stigmata, which is difficult for skeptics to debunk, especially if the target audience is familiar with his story. However he also allegedly has Religious ecstasies or Bilocations which are variations of alleged religious "revelations," which people of many religions have been claiming to have for thousands of years, and they've had major impacts on our history, whether they're real or not.

These alleged "ecstasies," "bilocations," "revelations," or what ever you want to call them are much more difficult to prove and would be much easier to dismiss in their entirety if there weren't so many stories about them that went into an enormous amount of detail, although most people don't pay attention to them. Some of the most famous mystics, including Padre Pio also have some major unexplained phenomena that happens around them, or at least they appear to.

Even if, as many so-called skeptics claim, these can all be explained through natural means, there are still many religious people that believe them and make major decisions based on these beliefs. Many of these people look much closer at the history behind these unsolved mysteries, often closer than the so-called skeptics that attempt to debunk them. They can see that the skeptics are obviously not using the scientific methods that they claim to promote, and often reject their skepticism and adopt the religious interpretation of alleged mystical activities, even if they're also flawed.

The biggest recent attempt to debunk his alleged stigmata that I know of was Sergio Luzzatto's claim in his book, "Miracles and Politics in a Secular Age" that Padre Pio created his own stigmata with carbolic acid, as described in Padre Pio: Wonderworker or Charlatan? by Joe Nickell Fall 2008 The story about carbolic acid had been investigated numerous times, and he added a claim that Padre Pio had asked someone to get more carbolic acid in 1919 about a year after he first received the alleged stigmata. In most versions of this story including one of the most famous and I suspect credible biography of Padre Pio, Bernard Ruffin "Padre Pio" revised 1991 edition a doctor visited the friary in 1918 shortly before the stigmata appeared permanently and gave them carbolic acid which they were supposed to dilute, but he forgot to tell them, and use as a disinfectant to give the boys a shot for medical treatment. Unfortunately, Padre Pio and Padre Paolino split it on their own hands and burned themselves as well as the boys. These burns healed relatively quickly, and when Padre Paolino first heard about the alleged stigmata from Nina Campanile he initially dismissed it as a burn from the carbolic acid; however when Nina Campanile insisted he checked and realized that unlike the boys and himself he still had the wounds, which stayed with him for fifty more years, until shortly before his death. In this time thousands of people saw the wounds and it was inspected by numerous doctors as told by Ruffin and other sources.

If the claim that Padre Pio was faking his wounds for fifty years were true then it would have left another major unsolved mystery, how did he manage to live to the age of eighty-one with all his health problems? Actually this is a legitimate mystery on it's own even without faking the stigmata since his health care especially when he was younger was very poor and he had lots of health problems that might have been at least partially related to the abuse he accepted when he was younger from superiors and teachers, which is also part of a religious indoctrination process, as I explain below, mostly without relying on supernatural explanations.

Most of the unsolved mysteries surrounding Padre Pio and many other so-called mystics aren't so easy to recognize without looking close at the details, which is why a true rational skeptic should keep an open mind until doing more research, with a reasonable amount of skepticism. Some of these so-called mystics really are all just a bunch of hype, probably including Jeanne Dixon, who I haven't looked too closely at, since most of the tories that I found about her quickly fell apart, and she seems to have been catering to the credulous. However, in some cases, including Padre Pio, Edgar Cayce, Joseph Smith, Jose Arigo, Uri Geller and more, a closer look indicates a legitimate unsolved mysteries, although the most devout believers of these mystics often tend to be cult followers and they almost certainly don't get the details right and come up with many flawed conclusions.

Ironically many of these skeptics fail to research some of the best work about early childhood upbringing that contributes to indoctrination and prevents many children from developing critical thinking skills and could explain an enormous amount of these unsolved mysteries. I'm not convinced that this would explain all of it but it would explain a lot and if they compared it to Padre Pio's history it could help understand why so many people adopt such irrational beliefs and follow cults with highly irrational beliefs.

Whether there is a legitimate unsolved mystery about Padre Pio or not there religious followers of him believe that he's being influenced by God and they believe that this makes him a high moral authority, worth praying to for moral guidance.

What is it about him that makes them think he's a superior moral authority?

I don't know how his followers would answer that; however, as far as I can tell, the leading reasons why they consider him a leading moral authority is alleged mystical events surrounding him, including his stigmata, alleged miracle healings, bilocation, religious ecstasies, prophecies, and other mystical events which are often difficult to prove or know what they're supposed to mean, and the leading moral value that he seems to preach is obedience to authority, even when authorities are proven to be corrupt, as the history about him clearly shows, although those sympathetic to him don't phrase it that way.

They obviously look at hims very differently, and some of their reasons are legitimate, or at least they seem to be. there are many good things about him, as described in Bernard Ruffin's book "Padre Pio" revised 1991 edition although I don't agree with all his conclusions. Most people consider him a very pleasant person, and he supported a hospital that helped improve health care in his area where there was little access to medical care, and supported other social programs that helped the working class and the poor. I can't completely rule out the possibility that there might be some truth to at least some of his alleged miracle healings; however if there were real, and they were as a result of influence from a advanced intelligence that he refers to as "God," it would have been far more benevolent if this God opened up an honest dialogue with everyone and explained how these cures work so they could be replicated for all to benefit from.

It would also have been much better if this God provided advice about how to avoid wars and many other disasters that have been plaguing mankind for thousands of years. Unfortunately instead of doing that he allegedly sends messages like one Padre Pio described in a letter to Padre Benedetto where he told him about an alleged visit from Jesus during one of his religious ecstasies, near the end of the first World War, where he wrote, "In one of his visits that I received from Jesus in recent days, I asked Him insistently to have compassion on the poor nations, so tried by the misfortune of war, and cause his justice to give way at last to mercy. It was strange. He answered only by means of a gesture that seemed to say, 'Slowly Slowly.' 'But when?' I asked. And He, with a serious expression, but with a half smile on his lips, gazed at me briefly and, without another word, dismissed me."

Neither Padre Pio or many, if any, of his followers even think to ask why God doesn't just open up an honest line of communication, and provide advice that would make these wars much less likely or perhaps avoid them completely and set up a democratic system where people develop critical thinking skills and learn how to hold their leaders accountable, avoiding war environmental disasters epidemic levels of fraud and much more.



Instead whether these mystical events are true or not they're used as part of a belief system that teaches people to blindly believe their leaders, and obey orders.

However, as far as I can tell the most important and effective indoctrination methods that religions use to control their followers don't involve anything paranormal, and if skeptics of the paranormal did their research and tried to educate the public about early child hood indoctrination, often through intimidation and use of corporal punishment and other forms of child abuse to teach them to obey blindly and believe what they're told they might do a far better job convincing religious people to question their faith, eventually.

In the following excerpt Bernard Ruffin, who is a Lutheran Minister sympathetic to Padre Pio, provides what I consider a mostly accurate description of the mystery surrounding Padre Pio; although, I believe there is at last one more possibility that should be considered:

One thing is certain: Padre Pio cannot be dismissed lightly. There are basically only four conclusions that may be drawn concerning the Capuchin priest and his Ministry:

First, one may conclude that Padre Pio was one of the Greatest frauds of history, a showman, perhaps in league with Satan, a magician capable of humbugging the public to a degree imagined even by P.T. Barnum.

Second, one may conclude that Padre Pio was in large measure a product of the superstitious imaginations of an ignorant and gullible peasantry who read into the life of a simple, holy priest what they wanted to see, building around him a cult of mindless self-delusion.

Third, one may conclude that Padre Pio was a madman, a pathetic creature, hysterical and possibly schizophranic, who remained outside the mental institution by his clever ability to convince thousands of people that his delusions were reality.

If none of these three scenarios be true, then one must conclude that Padre Pio of Pietrelcina was one of the most significant figures in Christian history, a man of prophetic and apostolic stature, who, through great personal holiness and enlightened wisdom and through spiritual gifts inexplicable by science, tended to confirm the truth of the Gospels and the veracity of historical Christianity to an indifferent and unbelieving age; a man capable of conveying to an extraordinary extent a sense of God's love and care; and evangelist who never conducted a crusade, and who, without traveling more than a few miles from his friary in fifty years, yet seemed capable of transforming lives to a degree unimagined by the most successful evangelical preachers. Additional excerpts to Bernard Ruffin "Padre Pio: The True Story" (briefer excerpts will be discussed below but see these for more context or read the full book.)

His book goes on to provide a reasonably good history of Padre Pio, showing some degree of skepticism, and in the forward or appendix where he explains how he first heard about Padre Pio he explains that he did a lot of fact checking and revised his work when he found evidence to raise doubts, indicating that he's not entirely a blind follower as many Catholic biographers might be. If you accept his four options and you think he's a reasonably good researcher the fourth conclusion might seem like the most reasonable; however that still doesn't explain why God doesn't open up an honest line of communication that might help people avoid wars plagues and many other disasters; which is why there clearly should be at least one more option.

If there is an unknown advanced intelligence of some sort that most people refer to as God could he have an undisclosed agenda?



Actually most religious people seem to admit that God has some kind of an agenda, although they have a hard time explaining what it is in a rational manner. They often talk about "God's Plan" and how he rewards those that behave in a moral manner by sending them to heaven after they die; however there's still no explanation about why he neglects to communicate in a consistent manner that isn't shrouded in mystery, like revelations, including those from the Apocalypse which are routinely interpreted in many different ways that few people can agree on, including some possibilities that I've come up with previously, although I don't consider them conclusive or reliable without further confirmation, as I've explained before and will mention again below.

But, I still try to be a rational skeptic, although occasionally I find what might be extraordinary evidence of some kind of major unsolved mystery, even it isn't adequate to explain all the details. However, as I attempted to explain in Dobson’s Indoctrination Machine the most important indoctrination methods used by religious people, or perhaps even non-religious people, aren't based on paranormal events to control people, but early childhood indoctrination methods that often involve corporal punishment that often escalates to child abuse and using fear and intimidation to teach a child to believe what they're told instead of developing critical thinking skills and sorting through facts to find out what's true, including challenging authority figures when they're wrong or abusive.

For someone that is familiar with the research showing how early child abuse contributed to indoctrination there's plenty of evidence in Padre Pio's history to show that he was subject to early indoctrination methods, and he seems to have learned to like being subject to abuse and come to believe that it serves a purpose of some sort, although he doesn't seem to understand it and simply trusts that God or Christ is looking out for our best interest even though evidence doesn't support his beliefs. However, he's been indoctrinated not to question authority figures. When accused of being disobedient he once responded, "If my superior ordered me to jump out of the window, I would not argue. I would jump." The same seems to go for not questioning beliefs like when Christ allegedly told him he would end the war "Slowly! Slowly!" without providing additional details; and on another occasion according to Ruffin, "Benedetto and Agostino asked Pio to ask Jesus why it was God's will that he remain outside the friary, Pio reported that Jesus said to tell them that they should not ask."

Apparently when the Lord says or implies they should remain ignorant they believe this is acceptable and, perhaps, desirable.

Padre Pio supposedly didn't remember being spanked by his parents however his parents attempted to follow the maxim of Solomon, "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it." (Proverbs 22:6) and there are many other proverbs that encourage the use of corporal punishment. It's not uncommon for many people to forget the early abuse the suffer as a child especially if it's really young, and Padre Pio apparently has a history of forgetting other things, like when asked about the first alleged appearance of his stigmata in the sixties, he said it happened at San Giovanni Rotondo in 1918, and only changed it when reminded of a written report he made about ten years earlier.

There was also a story that came from his father about when he was a baby and he cried a lot and he jumped up from bed exasperated and shook him vigorously yelling, "The Good Lord must have sent a little devil into my house instead of a baby." Then he dropped him accidentally and his wife shouted at him hysterically. This kind of emotional behavior could also lead to indoctrination when a small child is afraid that his parents might start yelling at him for reasons he can't understand, although he wouldn't have understood anything this early, but it could establish a pattern of being terrified of outbursts.

One way or another he learned that he should accept the punishments given to him without complaint even when it wasn't justified and if he complained at all it was limited and at a time when it would be ineffective at changing anything. His school teacher Don Angelo Caccavo routinely whacked children on the open palm with a short ruler as a form of punishment, and on one occasion when some of these students falsely signed Francesco's name (before he took the name Pio) to a love letter and handed it to a girl who turned it over to Don Angelo he responded by beating Francesco with his fists losing his temper and would have beat him much worse if his wife hadn't realized what was going on and intervened. He was horrified when he learned that Francesco hadn't written the note, and Pio later said "All his remorse could not take away the black and blue marks that I carried about for days." But this didn't lead him to think that questioning authority was acceptable.

Padre Tommaso, who he studied under later was much worse and would teach his students to self-flagellate themselves until they bled. The description provided by Ruffin of Padre Tommaso indicates that he was a fanatic abusing boys for arbitrary reasons to teach them to obey orders without question. Students were taught that they were expected to take an absurd amount of abuse without question to prove that they were devoted to God. Anyone not willing to put up with this insanity would inevitably leave, like one student from Naples who said, "Back home in Naples we pay a dime to see madmen, Here we see them for free." When Padre Tommaso overheard him he ordered him to strip and take the discipline immediately, but instead he just left.

Ruffin writes, "Extreme severity of this sort is a thing of the past. Moreover, if half of the stories told about him are true, Padre Tommaso had to have been excessive even for his time and place. Most modern Capuchins, however, suggest that not everything about traditional community life was bad. After all, at least one very positive thing can be said for the old ways: they produced Padre Pio." Not everyone would completely agree, although Padre Pio was a compassionate person who most people clearly liked, the blind obedience to authority he preaches is what enables many tyrants to get away with massive amounts of atrocities and promote wars and it convinces many people to submit to slavery, or virtual slavery.



This abuse, as Ruffin says, "is a thing of the past," or at least it seems to be; however, since it was used to develop indoctrination techniques for thousands of years, to teach people to accept the beliefs that are, for the most part, passed down from one generation to another, the results of this activity is still with us. This form of indoctrination doesn't require anything that we would consider supernatural or paranormal. It's hard to imagine why so-called skeptics like Michael Shermer of Joe Nickell, don't pick up on this, and try to explain it to the public when trying to debunk irrational beliefs. There is good research from the academic world, from researchers, including Alice Miller, Murray Straus, Philip Greven, Barbara Coloroso and more, in early child psychology to show this yet they don't look into it.

However a close look at their work indicates they have their own ideological beliefs and are reluctant to question them as well. Some of the best child psychology research is often marginalized within the academic world for one reason or another, and Michael Shermer has indicated that he follows other academics, including Steven Pinker, that are openly in denial about their work. This research has escalated significantly since World War Two including large changes in child rearing tactics promoted by Benjamin Spock that significantly reduced child abuse in the decades since then, and this was escalated when Alice Miller and others added to it, and is almost certainly a major cause of the reduction on murder rates from the early nineties to 2014 when they hit their all time low.

Extreme abuse like this wasn't always recommended by everyone in the Church either, although the vast majority of leaders and numerous verses from the Bibles including Proverbs have been repeatedly used to justify it. Saint Augustine was critical of this type of abuse and seemed to understand that it was used in an arbitrary and abusive way that didn't teach children well according to his book "Confessions."

(For review of Confessions describing Saint Augustine's views on corporal punishment click on picture.)

Saint Augustine also claimed that he didn't see many, if any, miracles in his time but once said, "Miracles are not contrary to nature, but only contrary to what we know about nature." If there is such an unknown advanced intelligence religious people know of as God influencing religious figures, I'm not ruling out the possibility that he sent a more rational alternative through Augustine, then allowed the dominant figures in the Church to promote child rearing techniques that were far more abusive and authoritarian. God certainly didn't open up an honest line of communication and advise against his abuse used to indoctrinate people for thousands of years.

Padre Pio clearly learned not to question authority from these educational techniques, and he also learned to use them as well, although he was never nearly as severe as Padre Tommaso. According to Celestino Orlando Padre Pio didn't hesitate to take of his sandal and use it to discipline children when they were acting up. Another student, Padre Aurelio Di Iorio admitted he wasn't the best informed teacher when he said, "He had a superficial way of teaching. He taught history and grammar, but he knew little of the former and none of the latter. His lectures were never more than twenty minutes long, and they were unprepared. He was not strict, not even when he administered examinations. He let the kids do pretty much what they wanted." This implies that he may not have always been consistent with his teaching methods, but it is unlikely that he was well informed about the subjects he taught.

Regardless of how good a teacher he was his reluctance to question authority resulted in his support for censorship of efforts to expose sexual and financial scandals involving people leading the Catholic Church, and this may have included, child abuse scandals and rape, that was exposed much more extensively in the nineties and since then, although Ruffin's descriptions aren't quite that specific. However he supported the suppression of at least two or three books which may still have copies that haven't been made public somewhere which could provide additional details.

A couple of these books include Padre Pio of Pietrelcina, written by Emanuele Brunatto, and Letters to the Church, written by Brunatto and Mayor Morcaldi both who were friends of Padre Pio and wrote these books to come to his defense by exposing his critics. Padre Pio's first response was to say, "The Church has a formidable weapon to neutralize the scandal, refute the episodes alleged in the book that might prove a source of scandal." But when he was told that "Unfortunately, those allegations are true," his response was to ask his friends to suppress the book without holding the Church leaders accountable. Brunatto insisted that "The price for our silence, the price of the book, is known: the liberation of the just and the removal of the guilty," which was far more likely to prevent it from happening again; however if this information wasn't made public then there's still a chance that it could. Officially they never fulfilled this demand, although they did allow Padre Pio to start preaching again, and the possibility that there was an unofficial deal is implied by the circumstances, which are described in greater context in Ruffin's book or the excerpts provided above.

Padre Pio of Pietrelcina, apparently went into print but the Church bought up all the copies and put it on the index of forbidden books, and Letters to the Church, was apparently never published, but my best guess is that some copies of both are available somewhere, which could shed more light on the scandals of the Church. But, if this Good God religious people worship does exist and he did influence Padre Pio as they believe, he remained silent about this and much more given tacit approval to many things that he could have prevented simply by speaking up.

On one occasions Padre Pio blamed a potential victim of sexual harassment for the crimes that we would now blame on her abuser. Padre Pio declined to absolve Maria DiMaggio for living with Archpriest Don Giuseppe Prencipe as husband and wife, and pressured her to resist him. She was willing to do this but according to a disposition from her when she tried to do this the archpriest attempted to rape her. After she signed a disposition saying this, Prencipe threatened to kill her unless she retracted her disposition.

This was typical of his refusal to question authority and the God that he worships, assuming he exists, doesn't do much if anything to hold those in power accountable; if anything by creating these alleged visions to control some religious leaders, including Padre Pio, God indicates that he supports their actions, for one reason or another.

He was also a strong supporter of Pope Pius XII, who also supported him in return. Pius XII and Padre Pio were both strong believers in the alleged Miracle of the Sun at Fatima, which I reviewed in UFO Hypothesis Far More Credible Than Catholic Claim of A "Miracle Of The Sun" Pius XII also claimed to have seen another Miracle of the Sun, on a different occasion, although his chauffeur who was the only one present besides him didn't confirm it. A statue from Fatima was brought to San Giovanni Rotondo in August of 1959, while Padre Pio was having serious health problems, and in front of an undisclosed number of witnesses, as the statue was being taken away Padre Pio prayed to the Modonna and allegedly felt a "mysterious force" and jumped up claiming that he was healed. His health improved dramatically until it deteriorated again in the sixties leading up to his death. A doctor disputed his account but the faithful continued to believe it was a miracle.

Pius XII was also a strong supporter of indoctrination techniques used to control children and thought that the Church should be able to control their education, often including censoring history to suit the Churches version. In "Hitler's Pope" John Cornwell explained how both Adolph Hitler and Eugenio Pacelli, who became Pope Pius XII, engaged Adolph Hitler about who should control the education process for children in Germany before he became Pope. They both agreed that children should be taught in strict authoritarian manners, however they disagreed about which of them should control the education process. Hitler won, although if the Pope had aligned himself with educators that wanted to teach critical thinking skills, it might have been different. This was a major part of the reason that many people, including John Cornwell, who was a devout Catholic that didn't expect to find so many problems with Pius XII, believed Pius XII enabled Hitler to rise to power.

Padre Pio was fond of saying that he would like to put Hitler in a cage and take him around the world so he could show everyone how evil he was, however he still preached the same blind obedience to authority that Pius XII and other Catholic leaders taught and this is what enabled Hitler to get so many people to blindly follow him. By supporting authoritarian education techniques both Padre Pio did more to enable World War II than to prevent it; and the God they worship remained silent, at best, instead of advising how to prevent it.

As Ruffin's book and many other sources indicates the evidence of his stigmata is very difficult to completely dismiss, especially after looking at many of the details of all the witnesses that saw it including medical examiners. Skeptics like Joe Nickell and Sergio Luzzatto try of course, but after looking at the track record behind these skeptics and seeing that they often have to come up with claims that are as flawed as the mysteries they claim to debunk it seems to me that there is a fair amount of evidence to indicate that there is a major unsolved mystery.

The evidence for revelations, religious ecstasies, or bilocation, isn't nearly as strong but as Bernard Ruffin repeatedly says there are so many stories that they can't all be wrong, or perhaps if they are there must be another social phenomenon that creates leads to all these claims, including many that are from seemingly credible sources. This doesn't mean that many if any of the stories are accurate as they're told. Few if any of them seem to completely keep their stories straight. In most cases there are only one or two witnesses for these revelations sometimes a handful more, or if there's a large crowd like at Padre Pio's masses or the crowd at Fatima where a handful of people have these revelations the crowd sees Padre Pio's or Lucia dos Santos and two other children in a trance during the alleged revelations, leading them to believe they're having them. Even if skeptics don't believe the revelations happen the faithful do and they allow them to influence the way they live their lives, including blind support for authorities, even when they're obviously corrupt, and wars even when they're proven to be based on lies.

If there is such a thing as these revelations of bilocations perhaps the strongest evidence of a single example is the alleged story of Giovanni Battista Rizzani as he was dying and a vision that both his wife claimed she saw of Padre Pio and another one that his daughter allegedly saw him as well about seventeen or eighteen years later. As Ruffin describes it, Padre Pio wrote a deposition which is still in the Vatican archives, which can be tested for his hand writing and carbon dated, that says he "had an extraordinary experience" and found himself far away in a wealthy home as a father, who happened to be an atheists, was dying and his child was being born and he saw what he called "Most Blessed Virgin Mary" who said “I am entrusting this child to you. Now she is a diamond in the rough, but I want you to work with her, polish her, and make her as shinning as possible, because one day I wish to adorn myself with her.”

Supposedly he didn't know about Giovanni Battista Rizzani and his family at the time of his deposition, but both his wife, Leonilde Rizzini, and daughter, Giovanna Rizzini, claimed to have seen a vision of him either that night or years later at St. Peter's Basilica. Skeptics might doubt this but the full story is told in Bernard Ruffin "Padre Pio" revised 1991 edition and believers accept this as evidence of his divinity and of God's messages sent through his prophets.

Perhaps one of his most famous religious ecstasies, although it wouldn't be considered the strongest evidence since it is based solely on Padre Pio's testimony, is the visits from an "Exalted Being," which he perceived as Christ, although his earliest descriptions of the vision didn't use the name Christ. Allegedly Christ pierced his side with a spear and this was allegedly how he first got the stigmata, at least in it's permanent form in 1918. According to Ruffin his earliest accounts "did not identify the Exalted Being as Christ, but described the hands, feet, and side as dripping blood," but in 1967 he referred to him as Christ.

Padre Pio and many other mystics have allegedly come to believe that somehow their God or Christ is doing them a favor by causing them to suffer for no clear reason that they can explain rationally. Frances (Fanny) Crosby, a Methodist and another alleged mystic once said that "If I didn't suffer, I would think God did not love me," and others literally refer to themselves as "Slaves of Christ" as if this is a good thing. The irony is that if there are such a thing as revelations and they're controlling people at least partially then they really are slaves of their cult leaders or whoever is controlling the revelations, yet skeptics or non-believers are unwilling to acknowledge this and might only believe that those with fanatical beliefs are real slaves. However if there is an unknown advanced intelligence influencing religion then they can influence anyone that uses religion, directly or indirectly, to make major decisions. Those that control the lies or myths people use to make decisions can partially control the decisions.

This alleged vision took place when Padre Pio was much younger than pictured and Christ was allegedly dripping blood as he did after his crucification.

I can't say for certain whether these revelations are partly true or not, but there's far more evidence to indicate that either there is some truth to them or there is a major unsolved sociological mystery to show how so many people came to believe in them. Major events in our history were allegedly influenced by these revelations. The Bible is, of course full of them, the entire Qur'an and Book of Mormon are allegedly from revelations or a translation of golden tablets that is very similar to a revelation. The Christian religion was adopted by the Roman Empire as a result of alleged dreams from God, which is a variation of a revelation.



If there is such a thing as a revelation as most religions believe how can any of these religions know for certain that the revelations they choose to believe in are true and all others are false? They can't; but they have an emotional attachment to their own beliefs, and argue passionately for them, often willing to fight and die in massive numbers when their leaders manipulate their emotions and turn them against each other.

If there is an unknown advanced intelligence of some sort that has been influencing our civilization for thousands of years there should be little doubt that he could have provided better advice and maintained an open and honest line of communication. Instead, assuming he exists he communicates in mysterious ways, if he communicates at all, and inspires religions that fight each other over and over again. This is hinted at in Qur'an Verse (5:48) "Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good." This can be partially confirmed independently, assuming your skeptical of the credibility of this revelation, as you should be, simply by thinking it through. If there is a God or Allah and he wanted to have only one religion he could have done so by simply maintaining an open line of communication with everyone, and provided reasonably good advice about how to set up societies and deal with each other without fighting one war after another based on lies.

Some things are simply not hard to figure out!

This means that if God or Allah exists then he must have some kind of an agenda.

If God doesn't exist then there have to be explanation for many major unsolved mysteries including how they moved ancient megaliths weighing hundreds of tons when experiments had to cheat between ten and forty tons and they didn't even try to do them bigger.



As I've said numerous times there might not be enough evidence to prove how religion came about how the megaliths were moved or how to explain other mystics but there is enough evidence to raise major doubts about the official version of history; and recent events involving the absurd behavior of the political establishment indicates that they're as insane as many of the so-called fringe conspiracy theories that they ridicule, including those claiming that the elections were rigged.

The elections were rigged!

That's not a fringe conspiracy theory; that's the truth and the evidence to prove that isn't even secret. They rigged the elections by simply refusing to cover honest candidates and declaring Hillary Clinton n to be the inevitable nominee years ahead of time and giving Donald Trump obsession coverage he needed to manipulate peoples emotions. If they covered honest candidates there is no way either Trump or Clinton could have been elected.

But beyond that the full explanation might be based on speculation. If you've been reading my Blog, or if you noticed a couple comments earlier in this article, you may know that I have been speculating about the Ancient Aliens theory; although the version of it on the History Channel is full of so many mistakes that I can't believe they're making them by accident.

A large amount of this speculation is based on the assumption that they're intentionally putting out false information through the mass media; if this isn't true they're so incompetent it is beyond belief; and they've often demonstrated that they're more competent than they pretend to be.

Some of my past articles have also cited Philip Corso's best selling book "The Day After Roswell" which claims that he shared technology obtained from alien spaceships that crashed, at Roswell or elsewhere, with corporations to reverse engineer. Like most if not all other high profile research on UFOs or other fringe beliefs this had a lot of problems; but if it's partially true, and my theory that they're releasing accurate information through unreliable sources mixed in with false information is also true then this has enormous implication.

Additional evidence to a far-fetched conspiracy escalated when the 2016 election kept getting more insane and it became obvious that they were rigging the election and that they weren't even trying to hide it. I first found claims, that seemed absurd, that referred to Hillary Clinton as the whore of Babylon; the first of these claims talked about how she might become the whore of Babylon in 2008. After reading the Book of the Apocalypse it became clear that, even though this claim still has many problems, she has far more characteristics of the Whore of Babylon than I would expect; and when I first wrote about it in "Yes Virginia There Is A Trump And Clinton Conspiracy" back in June of 2016 I pointed out that she has become more like the Whore of Babylon as she worked as Secretary of State. And since then, instead of seeing this absurd theory fall apart, there have been more similarities to the Book of Apocalypse to current events then I would have expected.

Sound insane?

Yes, of course, however the entire political establishment seems to ahve gone insane and the official version of truth is as insane as some fringe conspiracy theories, so I'll go on insane or not.

If there is some truth to Corso's claim that he shared alien technology with multinational corporations and they developed it, including computers, genetically modified technology, nanotechnology, transportation technology, some being used by NASA and many other technologies, including medical technology then it would be necessary to do research to develop it.

Whether this is true or not there is evidence from sources within the medical community including Marcia Angell, former editor-in-chief of the New England Journal of Medicine, and Harriet Washington, a Harvard Professor and expert on medical ethics, that have exposed massive efforts to use people for medical research, often without consent or fully explaining the consequences of the research. This is often done on many of the poorest people in society, in violation of their own ethical guidelines.

These are not fringe claims, however if they obtained an enormous amount of technology from aliens one way or another it is virtually guaranteed that there is much more to it than they've let on.

If they're also research on a large variety of scientific fields and if Climate Change really is caused by man then that opens up the possibility that they're also researching that as well. Even though there are plenty of fringe conspiracy theories about weather modification that people should be skeptical of there are also some more rational claims coming from people that have studied climate change to indicate that they have some understanding of how they effect the environment. There's no doubt that they're doing some research into this but just how far can they go? There should be little doubt that the most extreme theories aren't true but some of the evidence indicates there might be more than most people expect, especially if there has been an influence from an unknown advanced intelligence for thousands of years.

No doubt there is good reason to be skeptical about this, and believe it or not I try to be a rational skeptic but there is plenty of extraordinary evidence of many unsolved mysteries, and after looking at the details, assuming people do a good job fact checking, it might not seem quite as extraordinary once people understand it.

For some additional details on some of my past articles on the subject see the following:

Prophets and Mystics

Hurricane Apocalypse Coming With or Without Fringe Conspiracy Theory

Looming North Korea Nuclear Apocalypse Result of Incompetence? Or Staged?

107 Wonders of the Ancient World

Is “Prism” news? or is it ECHELON?

A Brief History of the Mormon Church

Why so few arrests for Crop Circles makers? Is there microwave evidence?

UFO Hypothesis with rational use of Occam's Razor

"God's Not Dead" But Is He Nice?

Multinationals Are Using Public For Research On Massive Scale

Yes Virginia There Is A Trump And Clinton Conspiracy but could it be related to a far-fetched Apocalypse Prophecy or a weak copy of it?

Wanted unsuspecting research subjects

Is Stanton Friedman working for the CIA to refute reverse engineering claims?

Deadly Monopolies and Medical Slavery?

Deadly Monopolies With Alien Technology?

UFO Hypothesis Far More Credible Than Catholic Claim of A "Miracle Of The Sun"

Could Steve Bannon Be Providing Propaganda To Enable Climate Change Research Project?



Even if large portions of this theory don't prove to be true there should still be little or no doubt that there are a massive number of scam artists, that could fit the Biblical definition of a false prophet, including the ones mentioned in the Book of Apocalypse. The more reliable child psychology source3s that I cited go along way to explain why so many people fall for scams that are so incredibly bad. This would also include incredibly bad scams from people catering to emotion in politics as well, like Donald Trump, Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee and Roy Moore that should never be able to fool anyone yet they're doing it on a massive scale, as well as the enormous number of televangelists robbing the faithful blind with the help of the media.

A good understanding of how early indoctrination teaches people who often start out as abused children to believe what they're told and not to challenge their leaders explains why so many people might follow Roy Moore or Donald Trump even after the insane amount of credible accusations against both of them. The same could go for Hillary Clinton although she was usually more subtle.

How can so many people fall for such bad scams?

Is early childhood abuse enough to explain this?

Perhaps, it certainly explains most of it; but if there is a God, as they actually believe, then that provides more possible explanations; and regretably the claim that God has been good to them by allowing all this insanity simply doesn't hold up.



New Roy Moore accuser: He grabbed me 'on my buttocks' 11/17/2017

Out Front 11/17/2017 Tina Johnson "The Lord that I serve is not the one Roy Moore serves because my Lord knows that he did it. He knows it and I know it. He can say whatever he wants to say. The truth will stand when the world wants, and that's the truth."

Court sides with Sheri Coleman family in lawsuit against ministry 08/14/2014

Joyce Meyer testifies in secret for Coleman murder trial 04/07/2011

For additional sources about Padre Pio see the following:

Padre Pio: Wonderworker or Charlatan? by Joe Nickell Fall 2008

Bernard Ruffin "Padre Pio" revised 1991 edition

Padre Pio Under Investigation: The Secret Vatican Files 2011 By Francesco Castelli

Father Pio. The last suspicion. The truth about the friar of the stigmata by Saverio Gaeta ‎Andrea Tornielli 2008

Index of /images/Skeptics and Debunkers

The Facts Behind Religious Stigmata: Medical Mystery or Miracle? 09/14/2014

What Is the Truth about These Marks of Christ? 03/28/1997

28-03-1997 STIGMATA george hamilton christina gallagher ethel chapman heather woods padre pio (DM)1220.jpg He wants to be left alone: “I don’t want to become a circus act.” Like a number of stigmatics he is unable to eat. The first if the eight stigmatics I have met was Ethel Chapman from Liverpool, a former music hall entertainer who at the height of her career shared a stage with Glenn Miller. However science or medicine might explain the stigmata the marks remain a powerful religious symbol

The fourth healing: Stigmata - What is it?

About 50 Modern Day Stigmatists

Saint Pius of Pietrelcina (Padre Pio) image of Christ piercing his side with a spear

Padre Pio: A Catholic Priest who worked miracles and bore the wounds of Jesus Christ on his body by Bro. Michael Dimond, O.S.B. PDF estimated seventy five pages

SURPRISING IS NUMBER OF SAINTS AND POPES WHO PRACTICED WHAT SOME SEE AS STRANGE 'SELF-MORTIFICATION'

Close Encounters of the Special Kind with Padre Pio, the greatest person (after Jesus and Mary) that ever lived on Earth

Padre Tommaso from Monte Sant'Angelo