Previously in Were Religions, Including Christian Science, Part of Ancient Aliens Medical Research Project? I speculated about the possibility that, if aliens were partly responsible for moving massive megaliths thousands of years ago, and Philip Corso was correct about sharing alien technology with corporations, as he claimed in his best selling book, "The Day After Roswell" 1997, that aliens might be involved in researching us for thousands of years and even influencing religions.
It's also a follow up of a question that I was asked last year, Serious question. Have you lost your mind? 11/15/2018, the person asking this was an author of a good book about the plague, which I've read since then, and although I don't expect her to agree with some of my speculation, there are some major unsolved mysteries that raise doubts about the official version of our history.
There's good reason for rational skeptics, including Wendy Orent, to claim that extraordinarily claims requires extraordinary evidence; however, even though there isn't extraordinary evidence of all the speculation in this theory, there is extraordinary evidence to raise doubts about the official explanation of our history. The most compelling evidence that is easy to recognize that I've often cited for speculation that there might be something to the "Ancient Aliens" theory, even though they make an enormous number of blunders on the history channel, is experiments to replicate efforts to move megaliths that had limited success under ten tons, only inched them forward despite cheating in experiments from ten to forty tones and didn't even try larger ones, despite the fact that ancient civilizations moved numerous megaliths over seven hundred tons.
If ancient civilization were able to move these megaliths in a massive volume all over the world, then there should be no doubt that modern researchers should be able to come far closer to replicating the effort than that; and even one of the skeptics, Roger Hopkins, that participated in the biggest experiments between ten and forty tons admitted that he couldn't explain how it was done, although I wouldn't go so far as to say that he agrees with a version of the Ancient Aliens theory.
Wendy recommended that "take a look at some serious archaeology" when I informed her of this and I responded by saying that "I took a good look at lots of Archaeology starting before Ancient Aliens had their show so I recognized they made an enormous amount of blunders and can't be relied on as a credible source; however there are legitimate mysteries and I suspect there's an intentional effort to confuse the issue for one reason or another I don't doubt your claims about plagues but official truth has major problems too and technology has been advancing at amazing rates."
There's little or no extraordinary evidence quite as clear and conclusive as the megaliths; however there is plenty more evidence of major unsolved mysteries, that could support an Ancient aliens theory, although the History Channel version would need a lot of good peer review to fix many obvious mistakes or highly unlikely speculation. this includes UFO sightings, Crop Circles, Cattle mutilations, mystics and much more, perhaps even including stories about alien abduction, although this subject is full of far more blunders than most, and if there is something to it, then a large portion of it is based on retrieved memories through hypnotism, which has potential for lots of mistakes. The most conclusive potential case of alien abduction that I know of may be Travis Walton. He had witnesses to his disappearances who also claimed to have seen the alleged UFO, there were police reports and he disappeared for five days whole the police were investigating his co-workers for a possible murder before he was returned.
Travis Walton and six of his co-workers all took polygraph tests passing them, except for one who was inconclusive. Travis Walton also took another polygraph test thirty years after the fact for a game show "The Moment of Truth," and the test said he was lying, according to Wikipedia. Skeptics like Philip Klass and Michael Shermer claim it's a hoax, but as I've pointed out on numerous occasions, including Pseudo-Skeptics Can't Handle The Truth Or they just might be involved in a massive cover-up. they have their own credibility problems. However, even Travis Walton's memories of his alleged abduction may not be very reliable even if it is partly true, which is typical of memories often retrieved through hypnotism.
There are some similarities between these memories and alleged mystics that often claim to have contact with the spiritual world, God, or as in the case of Helena Blavatsky the "Masters" which she also refers to as the "Brotherhood of man." these alleged mystics which I've gone into before in Prophets and Mystics and my last article also mentions Andrew Jackson Davis who predicted a large amount of modern technology in his book "The Penetralia" in the chapter "Questions on the effects of Utilitarianism." This book was written in 1856 when he was thirty-one, and his first book was written in 1847 and allegedly dictated from a trance. He became a "Spiritualist" in his early twenties despite not being able to write a "correctly spelled and punctuated sentence," according to his scribe and hypnotist.
The writings from him are extremely sophisticated for someone from his time, and he predicted many things that he shouldn't have known; however, if he was a fraud carrying out a hoax along with all the other people reporting UFOs or mystical experiences, many of them are incredibly good hoaxes, and skeptics can't explain how they were done, nor do they try to address why large media corporations like the History Channel would help them with their scams. This would be another conspiracy to create massive hoaxes and the media would be involved in it, since they're airing the Ancient Aliens series, which puts skeptics like Michael Shermer in an awkward position since he often dismisses the avast majority of conspiracy theories about the government or large corporations participating in major conspiracies against the people. It's hard to see how you can avoid the conclusion that either they're involved in a cover-up or they're helping to create the hoax, or perhaps even both.
Most rational skeptics will probably agree that this isn't strong enough evidence to prove the theory that if there are aliens influencing society that they're conducting research on health; however, unless they can explain all the unsolved mysteries, including megaliths and mystics, that raise doubts about the leading scientific belief that our society developed without any influence from an unknown advanced intelligence of some sort, whether you call it God, aliens or something else, then refusing to consider different possibilities would be highly unscientific, although it would be advisable to demand more evidence before coming to conclusive conclusions which I don't expect to do.
However, there is a little we can do to narrow it down, by quickly considering the possibility that there's a benevolent God, as most religious people believe; and that "With God All Things Are Possible" as the Bible claim. If God was benevolent and "All Things Are Possible" with him then he could open up an honest line of communication and provide advice on how to avoid all these wars based on lies that we've been fighting throughout history often for religious reasons, and he could also advise on how to reduce many diseases, including the plague, small pox, the Spanish Flu and much more.
 |
| This quote has been disputed; however, it's a relatively simple concept and should stand on its own merits regardless of the source. |
Epicurus might agree that this simple argument is enough to establish that either God doesn't exist at all or we've come to the wrong conclusions about him and that he almost certainly has an undisclosed motive.
If, on the other hand, the ancient aliens theory is partly right, even though they often do a terrible job presenting it on the History Channel, then at least we can speculate about what their motive might be based on the evidence, although it's scattered throughout history and a lot of it might not seem to be related, at first glance. If they managed to travel here from a distant solar system they must have some reason for not communicating for so long. If they aren't conducting research, why not? Could they have developed all their technology without research like an omnipotent God? Unlikely, but then Epicurus' quote would apply to them just like God, which brings us abck to the possiblity that tehy might ahve to conduct research once they got here, especially if they advanced life can't travel through space, only automated robots with artificial intelligence which I considered in UFO Hypothesis with rational use of Occam's Razor and my previous theory about recruiting a group of crackpots, which I reposted in Is Stanton Friedman working for the CIA to refute reverse engineering claims? might explain why there are so many major blunders from pundits on both sides of the issue, which basically means they're not even trying to do a good job. By providing partial disclosure mixed up with absurd claims they make it seem so incredible that few will believe it, except the most credulous that overlook these flaws or rare people that carefully sort though the details.
Furthermore there's plenty of evidence to show that even if they aren't relying on alien technology to conduct research on humans they're still using poor people, including many living in third world countries, prisoners and even veterans for research without full consent and evidence for this has been presented by some good academics that don't subscribe to the ancient aliens theory like Harriet Washington who I reviewed in Deadly Monopolies and Medical Slavery? and followed this up with several other articles including Deadly Monopolies With Alien Technology?; Researching Poor, Slaves, Prisoners, To Benefit Ruling Class With Alien Technology?; and Spectacular Heart Transplant for Sophia But at What Cost.
Whether it's with the help of alien technology or not many fields of science, including medical research has been advancing at a rate much faster than ever in history, yet we have an incredibly dysfunctional and corrupt government that is constantly cutting funds for research and handing it over to the private sector, which is reluctant to conduct research unless they're guaranteed a profit.
But even if there isn't a major effort by aliens to use us for research, Wendy Orent clearly thinks that there has been one by various governments including the Russians, Germans, Japanese and the United states to conduct research at one point or another to develop the plague as a biological weapon as indicated in the following excerpts from her book:
Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.20-1
Eventually, Domaradskij was pulled out of Rostov, which remained on the fringes of bioweapons research, into Moscow, the center. By the early 1970s, when Domaradskij began to drift into the closed world of secret science, that world was rapidly changing. In 1969, President Richard M. Nixon unilaterally shut down the U.S. biological weapons program. Three years later the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention was signed by the United States and the Soviet Union as well as seventy-seven other countries. The United States indeed abandoned its program, not without the opposition of the CIA and the weapons scientists themselves. But the Soviet Union used the accord as a shield behind which they built a massive program, employing at its height perhaps thirty thousand people in dozens of secret laboratories, an empire of death that spanned the country.
Domaradskij had become well known to the powers-that-be. He was appointed by Yuri Andropov, general secretary of the Communist Party, and Leonid Brezhnev, soviet president, as deputy chairman of the super-secret Interagency Science and Technology council on Molecular Biology and Genetics. Zhdanov, the famous smallpox eradicator, was made chair. Domaradskij and Zhdanov were tasked with bringing the science of biological weapons into the modern age – “to catch up and leave behind” any potential enemies. This involved the swift assimilation of the genetics discoveries in the West; to that end, Zhdanov and other top scientists (although not Domaradskij) were allowed to travel to the West and to mingle with Western scientists, in order to bring back as much scientific knowledge as possible. Western scientists apparently never suspected Zhdanov’s secret identity as a bioweaponeer. William Foege, the Lasker Prize-winning scientist who invented the ring vaccination strategy that eventually eliminated smallpox from nature, remembers Zhdanov as “a grandfatherly figure who had the goo of the world at heart.”
Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.183-5
Yersin believed that insects could carry plague; he ground up the legs and heads of dead flies he had found in his laboratory and injected the results into guinea pigs, which later died of plague.
...... Pricking the feet of rats with a plague-contaminated needle infected them easily, while rubbing plague material on the surface of an intact rat foot produced nothing. Simond pointed out that no one had ever shown that plague patients had sores on their feet.
But the ability of tiny pinpricks to cause infection in rats made Simond wonder: could a sucking insect contaminated with plague produce the same effect? He found that a small percentage of plague patients had a tiny ulcer or blister, called a phlyctenule, usually on the lower leg, ......
Simond reasoned from the appearance reasoned from the appearance of these blisters that they must have been caused by the introduction of plague into the body by an insect bite. ..... Though he never understood the mechanism of blockage, he nevertheless is responsible for the crucial discovery that fleas form the bridge between rats and men. His most critical experiment showed that healthy rats could not contract plague from sick ones in the absence of fleas.
But no one believed him. The British Indian Plague Research Commission, as British plague researchers & author L. Fabian Hirst puts it, "considered Simond's experimental evidence so weak 'as to be hardly deserving of consideration.' ... In Hong Kong, Hunter and Simpson failed to infect rats with infected rat fleas and concluded that 'plague infected fleas are of no practical importance in regard to the spread of plague.'" It was many years before Simond's discovery received its proper and general acknowledgement.
Meanwhile, the Third Pandemic raged. From Hong Kong, ships spread infection all over the world: to the United States and much of Latin America, to Australia, to India, to South Africa. ....
Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.212-7
After the last pneumonic epidemic in 1921, plague came back to north Manchuria, this time not as a natural outbreak, but as an agent of human design. The plague germ, among other agents, was used by the Japanese as a weapon of mass extermination. Thousands of Chinese, American, and Russian victims, whom the Japanese experimenters called “logs,” were subject to various bacteriological experiments. Some were injected with plague, anthrax, and other disease germs, and dissected while still alive and conscious. Some were prisoners of war; many were taken off the street of Harbin. The once cosmopolitan, thriving town had been the home of White Russians, Jews, Koreans, Mongols, and Europeans from many countries, all wood now for Ishii’s mill. Dragged off the streets and accused of various trumped-up charges, Ishii's logs were sometimes subjected to kangaroo trials and sometimes simply sent straightaway to Ping-fan's death factories.
Thousands of other people, mostly Chinese, were apparently killed in large plague epidemics started by various Japanese field trials, some of which involved dropping porcelain bombs filled with plague-infected fleas. Epidemic wave after epidemic wave swept over the area; some plague outbreaks reached further into China. According to one scholar:
In 1940, a series of epidemics struck Nongan county, 50 kilometers northwest of Chanchuan [the site of Unit 100, another Japanese biological weapons experimental unit]. The origin of the epidemic is still uncertain. There is some evidence that the pestilence may have come to Nongan by accident. Several scholars believe that waste from the Changchuan facility somehow seeped into the underground water table, and spread as far north as Nongan. Others are convinced that rats escaped from the Unit 100 laboratories, and brought plague with them to the infected region. Still others are certain that the Nongan county plague epidemic was nothing more than a BW field test undertaken by Unit 100.
Plague cannot be spread in water; perhaps the disease was spread by escaped plague-infected rats, though the thought of lab rats escaping and marching across the countryside to a city fifty miles distant seems rather doubtful. We know the Japanese conducted plague field trials -- so a deliberate bioweapons attack on the region seems the most reasonable explanation.
Another Japanese biological weapons base was established in the ancient Chinese city of Nanking in 1939, two years after the Japanese conquered that city. For two months beginning in December 1937, Japanese soldiers had run wild, slaughtering, looting, and raping: the infamous Rape of Nanking. Some twenty thousand women were raped, and 200,000 men cut down in the streets.
.....
The actual number of people who died in Ishii's bioweapons attacks and experiments will never be known, but the toll of the dead may have reached six figures. The Soviets made use of the knowledge garnered by Japanese scientists in their atrocious activities, but they weren't the only ones. America intervened in the process of postwar justice for the sake of information on biological weapons the Japanese were willing to share, and helped the worst of the Japanese war criminals escape punishment.
Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.224-9
Plague was never central to the former U.S. bioweapons effort, for one simple reason: despite sophisticated research on plague aerosol infectivity, among other topics, carried out at the old bioweapons laboratories at Fort Detrick before the 1969 shutdown, American scientists were never able to grow the germ in bulk. ... There is a trick to growing plague in bulk, which the Soviets(and even, apparently, Ishii's men) well understood. But our scientists did not know the trick. When Domaradskij heard of this, he seemed astounded. Then he laughed and said, "Let them come here, we'll teach them!"
.....
The strains exist, the knowledge exists. We are not in any apparent danger of a bioweapons attack from Russia itself. But many former Soviet scientists are unemployed, and some of them may be hungry. Quite a few of the best specialists have made their way to the West; but there are others.
Popov speaks with considerable bitterness about the world he left behind in 1992, when he fled to Britain: "It was so miserable to be a scientist in Russia; no money no status." Urakov's sharp dealings kept his staff on the edge of starvation; he forced them to buy sugar from the enterprise he controlled at exorbitant prices. The scientists were sometimes reduced to desperate measures just to eat. Complete article
Eventually, Domaradskij was pulled out of Rostov, which remained on the fringes of bioweapons research, into Moscow, the center. By the early 1970s, when Domaradskij began to drift into the closed world of secret science, that world was rapidly changing. In 1969, President Richard M. Nixon unilaterally shut down the U.S. biological weapons program. Three years later the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention was signed by the United States and the Soviet Union as well as seventy-seven other countries. The United States indeed abandoned its program, not without the opposition of the CIA and the weapons scientists themselves. But the Soviet Union used the accord as a shield behind which they built a massive program, employing at its height perhaps thirty thousand people in dozens of secret laboratories, an empire of death that spanned the country.
Domaradskij had become well known to the powers-that-be. He was appointed by Yuri Andropov, general secretary of the Communist Party, and Leonid Brezhnev, soviet president, as deputy chairman of the super-secret Interagency Science and Technology council on Molecular Biology and Genetics. Zhdanov, the famous smallpox eradicator, was made chair. Domaradskij and Zhdanov were tasked with bringing the science of biological weapons into the modern age – “to catch up and leave behind” any potential enemies. This involved the swift assimilation of the genetics discoveries in the West; to that end, Zhdanov and other top scientists (although not Domaradskij) were allowed to travel to the West and to mingle with Western scientists, in order to bring back as much scientific knowledge as possible. Western scientists apparently never suspected Zhdanov’s secret identity as a bioweaponeer. William Foege, the Lasker Prize-winning scientist who invented the ring vaccination strategy that eventually eliminated smallpox from nature, remembers Zhdanov as “a grandfatherly figure who had the goo of the world at heart.”
Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.183-5
Yersin believed that insects could carry plague; he ground up the legs and heads of dead flies he had found in his laboratory and injected the results into guinea pigs, which later died of plague.
...... Pricking the feet of rats with a plague-contaminated needle infected them easily, while rubbing plague material on the surface of an intact rat foot produced nothing. Simond pointed out that no one had ever shown that plague patients had sores on their feet.
But the ability of tiny pinpricks to cause infection in rats made Simond wonder: could a sucking insect contaminated with plague produce the same effect? He found that a small percentage of plague patients had a tiny ulcer or blister, called a phlyctenule, usually on the lower leg, ......
Simond reasoned from the appearance reasoned from the appearance of these blisters that they must have been caused by the introduction of plague into the body by an insect bite. ..... Though he never understood the mechanism of blockage, he nevertheless is responsible for the crucial discovery that fleas form the bridge between rats and men. His most critical experiment showed that healthy rats could not contract plague from sick ones in the absence of fleas.
But no one believed him. The British Indian Plague Research Commission, as British plague researchers & author L. Fabian Hirst puts it, "considered Simond's experimental evidence so weak 'as to be hardly deserving of consideration.' ... In Hong Kong, Hunter and Simpson failed to infect rats with infected rat fleas and concluded that 'plague infected fleas are of no practical importance in regard to the spread of plague.'" It was many years before Simond's discovery received its proper and general acknowledgement.
Meanwhile, the Third Pandemic raged. From Hong Kong, ships spread infection all over the world: to the United States and much of Latin America, to Australia, to India, to South Africa. ....
Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.212-7
After the last pneumonic epidemic in 1921, plague came back to north Manchuria, this time not as a natural outbreak, but as an agent of human design. The plague germ, among other agents, was used by the Japanese as a weapon of mass extermination. Thousands of Chinese, American, and Russian victims, whom the Japanese experimenters called “logs,” were subject to various bacteriological experiments. Some were injected with plague, anthrax, and other disease germs, and dissected while still alive and conscious. Some were prisoners of war; many were taken off the street of Harbin. The once cosmopolitan, thriving town had been the home of White Russians, Jews, Koreans, Mongols, and Europeans from many countries, all wood now for Ishii’s mill. Dragged off the streets and accused of various trumped-up charges, Ishii's logs were sometimes subjected to kangaroo trials and sometimes simply sent straightaway to Ping-fan's death factories.
Thousands of other people, mostly Chinese, were apparently killed in large plague epidemics started by various Japanese field trials, some of which involved dropping porcelain bombs filled with plague-infected fleas. Epidemic wave after epidemic wave swept over the area; some plague outbreaks reached further into China. According to one scholar:
In 1940, a series of epidemics struck Nongan county, 50 kilometers northwest of Chanchuan [the site of Unit 100, another Japanese biological weapons experimental unit]. The origin of the epidemic is still uncertain. There is some evidence that the pestilence may have come to Nongan by accident. Several scholars believe that waste from the Changchuan facility somehow seeped into the underground water table, and spread as far north as Nongan. Others are convinced that rats escaped from the Unit 100 laboratories, and brought plague with them to the infected region. Still others are certain that the Nongan county plague epidemic was nothing more than a BW field test undertaken by Unit 100.
Plague cannot be spread in water; perhaps the disease was spread by escaped plague-infected rats, though the thought of lab rats escaping and marching across the countryside to a city fifty miles distant seems rather doubtful. We know the Japanese conducted plague field trials -- so a deliberate bioweapons attack on the region seems the most reasonable explanation.
Another Japanese biological weapons base was established in the ancient Chinese city of Nanking in 1939, two years after the Japanese conquered that city. For two months beginning in December 1937, Japanese soldiers had run wild, slaughtering, looting, and raping: the infamous Rape of Nanking. Some twenty thousand women were raped, and 200,000 men cut down in the streets.
.....
The actual number of people who died in Ishii's bioweapons attacks and experiments will never be known, but the toll of the dead may have reached six figures. The Soviets made use of the knowledge garnered by Japanese scientists in their atrocious activities, but they weren't the only ones. America intervened in the process of postwar justice for the sake of information on biological weapons the Japanese were willing to share, and helped the worst of the Japanese war criminals escape punishment.
Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.224-9
Plague was never central to the former U.S. bioweapons effort, for one simple reason: despite sophisticated research on plague aerosol infectivity, among other topics, carried out at the old bioweapons laboratories at Fort Detrick before the 1969 shutdown, American scientists were never able to grow the germ in bulk. ... There is a trick to growing plague in bulk, which the Soviets(and even, apparently, Ishii's men) well understood. But our scientists did not know the trick. When Domaradskij heard of this, he seemed astounded. Then he laughed and said, "Let them come here, we'll teach them!"
.....
The strains exist, the knowledge exists. We are not in any apparent danger of a bioweapons attack from Russia itself. But many former Soviet scientists are unemployed, and some of them may be hungry. Quite a few of the best specialists have made their way to the West; but there are others.
Popov speaks with considerable bitterness about the world he left behind in 1992, when he fled to Britain: "It was so miserable to be a scientist in Russia; no money no status." Urakov's sharp dealings kept his staff on the edge of starvation; he forced them to buy sugar from the enterprise he controlled at exorbitant prices. The scientists were sometimes reduced to desperate measures just to eat. Complete article
The CIA supposedly stopped research into biological weapons in 1969 according to Wendy Orent, which is confirmed by other sources as well; however, she admits that some of them only did this reluctantly, and there are still conspiracy theories about them continuing additional experiments. She also reports how they allowed Japanese war criminals to avoid accountability for their war crimes in return for their help with research on biological weapons after WWII. Operation Paperclip also involved recruiting German scientists, including those researching biological weapons, and declining to prosecute them for war crimes. This adds to an enormous amount of evidence that I've previously cited about using humans for medical research without full consent, on a massive scale.
This is all true with or without the alien research hypothesis; and additional research is routinely done on victims of agent orange, or testing reactions to atomic explosions in the fifties and many other efforts that continue to this day in the military, despite claims they no longer experiment with biological weapons, including vaccines that are supposed to defend against weapons attacks which Harriet Washington reported on in her book "Deadly Monopolies," which reported on how the army required soldiers to take an experimental anthrax vaccine, and how a panic about a swine-flu strain in the seventies led the government to give pharmaceutical companies immunity "against any legal claims arising from the vaccines’ adverse effects" resulting in deaths of people from heart diseases within ours of taking the vaccine, leading to the suspension of the program.
The vast majority of research that I know of shows that vaccines are safe when they go through the proper testing; but contrary to an enormous amount of propaganda there are some legitimate concerns about some of them, although if there've been few if any cases like this since 1976, then I would hope most of them are safe.
And there's evidence to indicate that the Russians continue researching with biological or chemical weapons including the alleged poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko, Sergei Skripal, his daughter and numerous other people with poison. All this adds to evidence that this research is going on and although it may not be as extensive as it used to be, or current research simply hasn't been exposed yet, it continues to this day, with or without the alien research hypothesis.
If there have been aliens or some other advanced intelligence that shared technology with corporations, or allowed them to reverse engineer their technology after they crashed as Philip Corso claims, then there's the potential that they may also be involved in this research. If they have the ability to communicate through mystical ways as allegedly happened with many mystics that have had experiences considered paranormal like Edgar Cayce, Padre Pio, Helena Blavatsky, Andrew Jackson Davis and many other mystics throughout history, including Nostradamus, who was also a plague doctor then it might add to potential evidence of this hypothesis. Prior to WW II medical research was very primitive by today's standards, yet Nostradamus was supposedly able to do better at treating his patients than most so-called doctors in his time. In the two hour special Nostradamus: 500 Years Later they discussed how Nostradamus used somewhat scientific methods treating his patients saying that he rejected many of the superstitions of the time including bleeding which he tried, but unlike other doctors when he realized it wasn't working he stopped.
Nostradamus was typical of many mystics that mix in a lot of hogwash with some legitimate unsolved mysteries, that often don't meet many of the most extreme superstitions, but are difficult to completely dismiss from a rational point of view. For a long time I hardly paid attention to him but at one point I decided to go directly to the source and read his work, not the interpretations of other people, and couldn't make any sense of it, nor could I figure out how others came to their conclusions. However after 9/11/2001 they replayed Nostradamus "The Man Who Saw Tomorrow" narrated by Orson Welles (1981) which provided clear predictions of somethings that were very similar to current events that were interpreted in 1981 decades before they happened. Some of these including 9/11 were included in 14 Predictions By Nostradamus, The Greatest Analyst Ever 03/12/2011 by Robert Johnson who writes that "Following are a few of the prognosticators greatest credits and a couple of predictions that believers try to fit to events, but fall a little short."
There's no doubt that there are problems with Nostradamus's alleged predictions; however they often look very convincing. One thing that there should be no doubt about is the fact that astrology has no potential impact on cause and effect of many historical events. The moon impacts the tides and asteroids can have a serious impact but outside of that there's no way that many of historical events can be impacted by which constellation is in the sky at any given time. However, it can be used to convince a lot of superstitious people that it's true and used to manipulate them as part of a cult control process; for example if they predict a war during a constellation they can convince the public that there's a threat from the enemy and drum up support for a first strike, which would be a method of turning a silly superstition into a partially self-fulfilling prophecy as the result of a cult leader.
If Nostradamus was influenced in some way by an unknown advanced intelligence and they had a plan that involved conducting certain types of research at certain time in our development, then they could have used this method or something similar to create self-fulfilling prophecies to enable their experiments. but this is all presented in a manner that is very inconclusive, with some of it compelling enough that many might not want to completely dismiss it, but other claims that are clearly false. Sean Munger author of “The Man Who Saw Tomorrow”: the movie that ruined Nostradamus. 09/27/2013 and many other skeptics clearly think "it’s utter hogwash," and no doubt that a lot of it is, but many people clearly agree that it can't be completely dismissed.
If you agree that "it’s utter hogwash," as Munger, and I suspect Wendy Orent, believe, then it's unlikely that you would interpret some of the historical writings that Wendy cited in her book which may sound similar to mystics that might have been influenced by an unknown advanced intelligence, although without additional peer review and back up evidence, I wouldn't consider them nearly as compelling as some of the ones with further information. But, if evidence from mystics like Blavatsky, Padre Pio, Cayce, Andrew Jackson Davis and others, are considered compelling to establish a pattern of behavior they can indirectly support a theory about additional mystics or "Apparitions of supernatural beings" as described in her book which she considers religious superstition or something like that.
One example is, according to Procopius, a Roman historian that lived almost 1,500 years ago, "Apparitions of supernatural beings in human guise of every description were seen by many persons, and those who encountered them thought that they were struck by the man they had met in this or that part of the body, as it happened, and immediately upon seeing this apparition they were seized also by the disease." On one episode of Ancient Aliens they cite a similar incident if not the same one, and Giorgio Tsoukalos draws the conclusion that this is what he considers conclusive evidence that aliens spread the plague intentionally, although he may not have expressed any rational explanation as to the motive. Rational skeptics would no doubt not agree, and routinely dismiss stories like this as superstition. There's enough evidence to show how many myths evolved over years if not centuries to show that clearly this evidence isn't strong enough to be certain as Tsoukalos seems to be; however, if these skeptics can't explain many of the unsolved mysteries that they often ignore or distort to suit their beliefs they shouldn't be able to rule it out either, although in many cases Tsoukalos's ideas seem highly improbable. This would still lead to additional questions if Tsoukalos is close to the truth, like what they were trying to accomplish and why.
Wendy does point out that "the majority, Procopius concedes, were struck by the plague without any advance warning beyond a slight fever." However there are many other historical stories about how ancient people attributed many things to "God" or some other supernatural being; and many of them lived in times where these megaliths were being moved, or when they were allegedly being influenced by more mystics, although the record of them doesn't provide what I would consider conclusive records of mystical activities, except in the case of the megaliths or a handful of other cases, because they couldn't be thoroughly scrutinized. But, if modern mystics are compelling enough to provide evidence of a pattern of behavior then this could provide indirect evidence to the possibility that past mystics might also have been influenced by an unknown advanced intelligence. Of course, of skeptics aren't willing to take modern mystics seriously they won't consider it evidence to past mystics either.
Regardless of whether you believe there's potential for an unknown advanced intelligence or not there's plenty of evidence to show that most people in the past did, some of which was cited by Wendy in the following excerpts:
Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.76-7
Procopius describes the disease in exacting detail, as Thucydides, his model, had done for the Athenian plague: “I shall proceed to tell where this disease originated and the manner in which it destroyed men.” Thucydides he wasn’t, though; he exhibits a modest credulity more typical of his religiously excitable era than the dry rationality of his Athenian forebear:
Is Evagrius, in the first several lines, describing contagion? It is difficult to say; pneumonic plague doesn't appear to be part of the picture, but the account of people catching the ....
A devout Christian who believed that the disease was the sign of God's wrath at sinners, Evagrius could not understand why he had lost so many family members, while "this never happened to pagans with many children." He went to see St. Symeon the Younger, a famous holy man, who had been living on a pillar since childhood (he got his second set of teeth on the column, Evagrius tells us). At the time, St. Symeon lived on top of the Miraculous Mountain in Syria: a whole monastic colony and a great church were eventually built around his pillar, and the ruins can be seen to this day. The holy man, filthy, bearded, and wild-eyed, stared down from his sixty-eight-foot pillar at Evagrius and divined his thoughts: his grief at the loss of his children, his anger at God for sparing the Pagans. St. Symeon told Evagrius that such thoughts were displeasing to God, and that he must put them away. Evagrius rushed up the holy mountain to beg the saint for forgiveness.
John of Ephesus, whose writings survive only in fragments, never doubted the plague was God's work: The blessed prophet Jeremiah ... would cry and lament not over the destruction of one single city ... but over many cities which Wrath had, as it were turned into wine presses --[it treaded] and squeezed inside them all the inhabitants without mercy, as if they were ripe grapes; over the whole earth, because the (divine) decree was issued ...
John says of future generations, “Will they learn through the punishment of us, the miserable ones,and will they be saved from the Wrath of the present and from the punishment of the future?"
The dreams and waking visions of Procopius have become, in John's text, nightmare specters, which haunt the seas in boats of copper, pushed by headless people with copper poles.
Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.87
... But he became known as the first great pope of the early Middle Ages, and was to be known as Gregory the Great. Immediately after his ascension, he called for masses and penitential processions to avert the plague: he told the people of Rome that “our present trial must pave the way for our conversion” and promised that “When He sees the way we ourselves condemn our own sins, the stern Judge may acquit us of this sentence of damnation which he has proposed for us.”
The stern Judge may have been mollified by Pope Gregory's processions: the plague ceased, and the pope went down in church history.
What connection there may have been between the plague outbreak and the destruction of the wheat in the granaries, with their undoubtedly vast population of drowned or hungry rats, Gregory of Tours does not say.
Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.94-5
As far as the rise of Islam, how great a role did the relative weakness of the Byzantine Empire, after enduring many waves of plague, play in the ease with which that militant religion was able to sweep across North Africa and much of the Middle East? "Would it be unreasonable to suppose that the plague had something to do with the rather unexpected success of Arab revolts in the East and in North Africa?" ask Le Goff and Biraben.
Historian Timothy Bratton points out that we can't say that "the plague, and only the plague, was responsible for all the ills of the post-Justinian Empire." Much of the blame for these ills lies with the emperor himself. .......
Western Europe crept out of the empire’s shadow into the Middle Ages and its own history, leaving the classical world behind. It formed a new, syncretistic civilization. As tribe after tribe from the north settled down among the shards of old Roman Gaul. As Le Goff and Biraben put it:
Procopius describes the disease in exacting detail, as Thucydides, his model, had done for the Athenian plague: “I shall proceed to tell where this disease originated and the manner in which it destroyed men.” Thucydides he wasn’t, though; he exhibits a modest credulity more typical of his religiously excitable era than the dry rationality of his Athenian forebear:
Apparitions of supernatural beings in human guise of every description were seen by many persons, and those who encountered them thought that they were struck by the man they had met in this or that part of the body, as it happened, and immediately upon seeing this apparition they were seized also by the disease. Now at first those who met these creatures tried to turn them aside by uttering the holiest of names and exorcising them in other ways as well as each one could, but they accomplished absolutely nothing, for even in the sanctuaries where the most of them fled for refuge they were dying constantly. But later on they were unwilling even to give heed to their friends when they called to them, and they shut themselves up in their rooms and pretended that they did not hear, although their doors were being beaten down, fearing, obviously, that he who was calling was one of those demons. But in the case of some the pestilence did not come on in this way, but they saw a vision in a dream and seemed to suffer the very same thing at the hands of the creature who stood over them, or else to hear a voice foretelling to them that they were written down in the number of those who were to die. But with the majority it came about that they were seized by the disease without becoming aware of what was coming either through a waking vision or a dream. And they were taken in the following manner. They had a sudden fever, some when just roused from sleep, others while walking about, and others while otherwise engaged, without any regard to what they were doing. And the body shewed no change from its previous colour, nor was it hot as might be expected when attacked by a fever, nor indeed did any inflammation set in, but the fever was of such a languid sort from its commencement and up till evening that neither to the sick themselves nor to a physician who touched them would it afford any suspicion of danger. It was natural, therefore, that not one of those who had contracted the disease expected to die from it. But on the same day in some cases, in others on the following day, and in the rest not many days later, a bubonic swelling developed; and this took place not only in the particular part of the body which is called "boubon,"[16][17-23] that is, below the abdomen, but also inside the armpit, and in some cases also beside the ears, and at different points on the thighs. Procopius: The Plague, 542 History of the Wars, II.xxii-xxxiii: (Wendy Orendt only cited part of this excerpt in her book, this includes additional quotes and the rest of it is on line here.Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.81-3
Is Evagrius, in the first several lines, describing contagion? It is difficult to say; pneumonic plague doesn't appear to be part of the picture, but the account of people catching the ....
A devout Christian who believed that the disease was the sign of God's wrath at sinners, Evagrius could not understand why he had lost so many family members, while "this never happened to pagans with many children." He went to see St. Symeon the Younger, a famous holy man, who had been living on a pillar since childhood (he got his second set of teeth on the column, Evagrius tells us). At the time, St. Symeon lived on top of the Miraculous Mountain in Syria: a whole monastic colony and a great church were eventually built around his pillar, and the ruins can be seen to this day. The holy man, filthy, bearded, and wild-eyed, stared down from his sixty-eight-foot pillar at Evagrius and divined his thoughts: his grief at the loss of his children, his anger at God for sparing the Pagans. St. Symeon told Evagrius that such thoughts were displeasing to God, and that he must put them away. Evagrius rushed up the holy mountain to beg the saint for forgiveness.
John of Ephesus, whose writings survive only in fragments, never doubted the plague was God's work: The blessed prophet Jeremiah ... would cry and lament not over the destruction of one single city ... but over many cities which Wrath had, as it were turned into wine presses --[it treaded] and squeezed inside them all the inhabitants without mercy, as if they were ripe grapes; over the whole earth, because the (divine) decree was issued ...
John says of future generations, “Will they learn through the punishment of us, the miserable ones,and will they be saved from the Wrath of the present and from the punishment of the future?"
The dreams and waking visions of Procopius have become, in John's text, nightmare specters, which haunt the seas in boats of copper, pushed by headless people with copper poles.
Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.87
... But he became known as the first great pope of the early Middle Ages, and was to be known as Gregory the Great. Immediately after his ascension, he called for masses and penitential processions to avert the plague: he told the people of Rome that “our present trial must pave the way for our conversion” and promised that “When He sees the way we ourselves condemn our own sins, the stern Judge may acquit us of this sentence of damnation which he has proposed for us.”
The stern Judge may have been mollified by Pope Gregory's processions: the plague ceased, and the pope went down in church history.
What connection there may have been between the plague outbreak and the destruction of the wheat in the granaries, with their undoubtedly vast population of drowned or hungry rats, Gregory of Tours does not say.
Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.94-5
As far as the rise of Islam, how great a role did the relative weakness of the Byzantine Empire, after enduring many waves of plague, play in the ease with which that militant religion was able to sweep across North Africa and much of the Middle East? "Would it be unreasonable to suppose that the plague had something to do with the rather unexpected success of Arab revolts in the East and in North Africa?" ask Le Goff and Biraben.
Historian Timothy Bratton points out that we can't say that "the plague, and only the plague, was responsible for all the ills of the post-Justinian Empire." Much of the blame for these ills lies with the emperor himself. .......
Western Europe crept out of the empire’s shadow into the Middle Ages and its own history, leaving the classical world behind. It formed a new, syncretistic civilization. As tribe after tribe from the north settled down among the shards of old Roman Gaul. As Le Goff and Biraben put it:
As for the West, there is one tempting hypothesis. It is a fact that the British Isles, northern Gaul, and Germania were, for the most part, spared by the plague. Could not this have been one of the reasons for the shift of power in Europe from the south to the north, from the Mediterranean to the North Sea? If we dared pursue this idea further -- too far, no doubt -- we might advance the hypothesis that the Justinian plague, having contributed to an explanation for Mohammed, can also explain Chalemagne.Complete article
St. Symeon the Younger certainly seems like a highly unlikely story to most of us living today, especially if early development was entirely natural, without any influence by an unknown advanced intelligence like "God" or aliens, as most skeptics believe; however history is full of stories like these including many other oracles in many cultures including the Oracle of Delphi or Ammon and many other saints or mystics or people that claimed that there were mystical voices from "Great spirits" including native Americans living in the Mohawk Valley, New York, Tikal Guatemala, or many other places. These mystics, including Jesus, Mohammad, and many more, allegedly guided ancient civilizations on how to develop their society or founded many religions.
The story of Gregory the Great, or at least the conclusion that god stopped the plague because they showed they were repentant, is as unlikely as Evagrius's belief that this was God's punishment for something and there's little or no chance that his procession may have mollified "God;" however, if it was part of a research project one way or another then it might begin to make more sense, although we would need much more details to fully understand it.
Whether or not aliens were using the public for their research, Le Goff and Biraben, were probably right that the plague and many other factors had a major influence on how religion developed. If Nostradamus's ability to appear to predict the future was party true, and if it was a result of influence by some unknown advanced intelligence, like aliens conducting research they might have known, at least to some degree how things would turn out at certain points in their experiments, and somehow communicated these ideas through Nostradamus in riddles or parables that we wouldn't understand until long after the fact.
Furthermore they would have been in a far better position to study the plague as it develops than current researchers who had to study it through history or anthropology, since the researchers at the time of the biggest outbreaks of plague didn't have the ability to research and record their findings accurately the way modern scientists do. And yet, as the following excerpt indicates they're still unsure why the worst plagues stopped happening nearly as often in the eighteenth century as indicated in the following excerpt from Wendy's book:
Wendy Orent "Plague" 2004 p.166-7
One of the enduring mysteries of the mysterious affliction is why, after flaming across Europe over and over again since the fourteenth century, with a change in its mode of transmission, but with no diminishment of its power, did plague disappear? Plague had been more or less endemic in England for centuries: in between major epidemics, an individual case here, a small outbreak there, were regular events hardly noticed. But after Marseilles, the disease simply vanished, retreating to the Levant, the Middle East, Turkey, and Russia, where it broke out in two terrible waves in the mid-eighteenth century. Then it receded from those redouts, too, back into its ancient reservoirs in Central Asia, northern Central Africa, China.
Many theories have been advanced, and none proven. Some scholars have suggested that silent infection with one of the two related Yersina species, Yersina pseudotuberculosis and/or Yersina enterocolitica, helped inoculate the European rat population against pestis. an article by French scholar J.M. Alonso puts it this way:
One of the enduring mysteries of the mysterious affliction is why, after flaming across Europe over and over again since the fourteenth century, with a change in its mode of transmission, but with no diminishment of its power, did plague disappear? Plague had been more or less endemic in England for centuries: in between major epidemics, an individual case here, a small outbreak there, were regular events hardly noticed. But after Marseilles, the disease simply vanished, retreating to the Levant, the Middle East, Turkey, and Russia, where it broke out in two terrible waves in the mid-eighteenth century. Then it receded from those redouts, too, back into its ancient reservoirs in Central Asia, northern Central Africa, China.
Many theories have been advanced, and none proven. Some scholars have suggested that silent infection with one of the two related Yersina species, Yersina pseudotuberculosis and/or Yersina enterocolitica, helped inoculate the European rat population against pestis. an article by French scholar J.M. Alonso puts it this way:
Experimental infection by Y. enterocolitica, inducing a transitory and spontaneously cured infection in the immunocompetent host, promotes efficient immunity against plague. Thus, it seem likely that the emergence of some variants of Yersinia, less virulent than Y. pestis, but able to induce a long-lasting protective immunity against plague, have contributed to its eradication by a silent enzootic infection among the wild reservoirs of rodents.This is intriguing, if unprovable. But plague in Europe has always been a disease of commensal (domestic), not of wild, rodents. Elsewhere in Eurasia active plague foci continue to exist – and pseudotuberculosis has done nothing, after several centuries, to eliminate them. In the one region, therefore, where we might actually expect to see evidence of such replacement of one Yersinia infection by another, there is no such evidence at all. Complete article
Norman Cantor points out that "Since scientists had no microscope until around 1600 and no powerful one until around 1870, they could not see the disease-carrying bacilli." ("In The Wake Of The Plague" 2001 p.119) researchers of that time were still attributing it to astrology or divine retribution, so modern scientists must have had a very difficult time studying epidemics that happened hundreds of years after they happened after the evidence had deteriorated or disappeared; however if there was and advanced intelligence studying it while it was happening they would have been able to do a much better job gathering data, especially if their knowledge is even better than modern scientists.
Wendy was apparently not to thrilled with at least one aspect of Norman Cantor's book, saying "A year or so before my book came out, Norman Cantor's book on the Black Death appeared. He gave credence to the Plague from the Skies idea. I was incensed. We know perfectly well where plague originated and how it evolved." 11/15/2018 I don't necessarily agree with everything he wrote either, although perhaps for different reasons. "The Plague from the Skies idea" that she's referring to apparently came from Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinge who are among the most credible researchers in their fields, although it doesn't specialize in the plague; but since there were no good researchers at the time of the biggest plagues most of the research into it came from people from different fields to put the pieces together.
Some of the excerpts that Wendy objected to were in the following excerpts, which cites work that was written years earlier:
Norman Cantor "In The Wake Of The Plague" 2001 p.36
Finally in the 1440s the English Parliament for this Holocaust and the French -- according to doubtful national legend rallied by a visionary peasant girl, Joan of Arc -- defeated the marauding English and drove most of them out. The English kept only one French city, the port of Calais, until the mid–sixteenth century, and they never again made aggressive war on the European continent, preferring to create instead an empire overseas.
Norman Cantor "In The Wake Of The Plague" 2001 p.178-9
Diseases coming to earth from outer space can be viewed as another Jungian archetype, in modern times worked into redundancy by science fiction writers. But this banality does not rule out a real scientific basis for the idea of diseases from outer space.
The theory that the Black Death originated in outer space dates back to a book published in 1979, Diseases From Outer Space, by Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinge. Since then the two authors have published a series of books, one as recently as 1993 (Our Place in the Cosmos), in which they have responded to new developments in research and, to some extent, to criticism of their thesis. Hoyle is a renowned Cambridge astrophysicist and Wickramasinge is Professor of Applied Mathematics and Astronomy in the School of Mathematics in the University of Wales, Cardiff.
Norman Cantor "In The Wake Of The Plague" 2001 p.182-3
"To argue that stricken rats set out on a safari that took them six months not merely from southern to northern France but even across the Alpine massif, borders on the ridiculous. What remarkable rats they were! To have crossed the sea and to have marched into remote English villages, and yet to have effectively bypassed the cities of Milan, Liege and Nuremberg," where the incidence of plague was very low. (Milan it may be noted, enforced a quarantine that may have saved its citizens from the plague.)
.... But the Hoyle thesis has gained some surprising sympathy in scientific circles. In the 1980s Sir Francis Crick, the molecular biologist and Noble laureate, who was codiscoverer of the structure of DNA, mounted arguments similar to Hoyle's, causing a momentary press sensation. In 1999 Paul Davies, a theoretical physicist ...
They can argue that the vision of the last things, especially in the Book of Revelation, over-determined these imaginative scenarios of earthquakes that liberated huge serpents that swam up rivers and spread disease.
But we can't be sure that these hotblooded medieval explanations are simply derivative of artfully constructed biblical terror. They could have happened, just as the stories about King Arthur, Queen Guinevere, and Lancelot told around Welsh campfires in the early Middle Ages could have happened and then been dispersed to the far margins of literacy by the rationalizing state and church of the twelfth and thirteenth centuries. When an obscure administrator at the University of London, John Morris, took this line in The Age of Arthur (1973), the academics laughed at him -- too readily. It is just possible that medieval writers who placed the origins of the Black Death in serpents dispensing plague as they swam up rivers were on to something.
Vertical transmission of disease from outer space in the trails of comets is our era's version of the extreme history of the Black Death. Although expressed in the context of astrophysics and endorsed by a handful of respectable scientists and science writers, the cosmic dust thesis strikes us very much like the medieval fixation on water serpents.
At a certain point, however -- one we have not yet reached -- extreme history begins to impinge on conventional historiography, and common consciousness has to acknowledge that things unique, horrendous, and otherwise inexplicable have in fact occurred. Complete article
Finally in the 1440s the English Parliament for this Holocaust and the French -- according to doubtful national legend rallied by a visionary peasant girl, Joan of Arc -- defeated the marauding English and drove most of them out. The English kept only one French city, the port of Calais, until the mid–sixteenth century, and they never again made aggressive war on the European continent, preferring to create instead an empire overseas.
Norman Cantor "In The Wake Of The Plague" 2001 p.178-9
Diseases coming to earth from outer space can be viewed as another Jungian archetype, in modern times worked into redundancy by science fiction writers. But this banality does not rule out a real scientific basis for the idea of diseases from outer space.
The theory that the Black Death originated in outer space dates back to a book published in 1979, Diseases From Outer Space, by Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinge. Since then the two authors have published a series of books, one as recently as 1993 (Our Place in the Cosmos), in which they have responded to new developments in research and, to some extent, to criticism of their thesis. Hoyle is a renowned Cambridge astrophysicist and Wickramasinge is Professor of Applied Mathematics and Astronomy in the School of Mathematics in the University of Wales, Cardiff.
Norman Cantor "In The Wake Of The Plague" 2001 p.182-3
"To argue that stricken rats set out on a safari that took them six months not merely from southern to northern France but even across the Alpine massif, borders on the ridiculous. What remarkable rats they were! To have crossed the sea and to have marched into remote English villages, and yet to have effectively bypassed the cities of Milan, Liege and Nuremberg," where the incidence of plague was very low. (Milan it may be noted, enforced a quarantine that may have saved its citizens from the plague.)
.... But the Hoyle thesis has gained some surprising sympathy in scientific circles. In the 1980s Sir Francis Crick, the molecular biologist and Noble laureate, who was codiscoverer of the structure of DNA, mounted arguments similar to Hoyle's, causing a momentary press sensation. In 1999 Paul Davies, a theoretical physicist ...
They can argue that the vision of the last things, especially in the Book of Revelation, over-determined these imaginative scenarios of earthquakes that liberated huge serpents that swam up rivers and spread disease.
But we can't be sure that these hotblooded medieval explanations are simply derivative of artfully constructed biblical terror. They could have happened, just as the stories about King Arthur, Queen Guinevere, and Lancelot told around Welsh campfires in the early Middle Ages could have happened and then been dispersed to the far margins of literacy by the rationalizing state and church of the twelfth and thirteenth centuries. When an obscure administrator at the University of London, John Morris, took this line in The Age of Arthur (1973), the academics laughed at him -- too readily. It is just possible that medieval writers who placed the origins of the Black Death in serpents dispensing plague as they swam up rivers were on to something.
Vertical transmission of disease from outer space in the trails of comets is our era's version of the extreme history of the Black Death. Although expressed in the context of astrophysics and endorsed by a handful of respectable scientists and science writers, the cosmic dust thesis strikes us very much like the medieval fixation on water serpents.
At a certain point, however -- one we have not yet reached -- extreme history begins to impinge on conventional historiography, and common consciousness has to acknowledge that things unique, horrendous, and otherwise inexplicable have in fact occurred. Complete article
Carl Sagan wrote about Fred Hoyle in at least one of his books saying that they used to play a game in college called "prove Fred wrong" and very few people could do so, and even when they did, or at least didn't find evidence to support his claims he says that it helped advance science to explore different views sometimes leading to new discoveries. To the best of my knowledge, even though most of the academic world doesn't consider this theory viable, they haven't proven it wrong either and apparently Carl Sagan agrees that even if it's not true that it's worth serious consideration as described in the following excerpt from "The Demon-haunted World"
"The Demon-haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" By Carl Sagan, Ann Druyan 1997
Being human, scientists also sometimes engage in observational selection: they like to remember those cases when they've been right and forget when they've been wrong. But in many instances, what is 'wrong' is partly right, or stimulates others to find out what's right. One of the most productive astrophysicists of our time has been Fred Hoyle, responsible for monumental contributions to our understanding of the evolution of stars, the synthesis of the chemical elements, cosmology and much else. Sometimes he's succeeded by being right before anyone else even understood that there was something that needed explaining. Sometimes he's succeeded by being wrong - by being so provocative, by suggesting such outrageous alternatives that the observers and experimentalists feel obliged to check it out. The impassioned and concerted effort to 'prove Fred wrong' has sometimes failed and sometimes succeeded. In almost every case, it has pushed forward the frontiers of knowledge. Even Hoyle at his most outrageous for example, proposing that the influenza and HIV viruses are dropped down on Earth from comets, and that interstellar dust grains are bacteria - has led to significant advances in knowledge (although turning up nothing to support those particular notions.) Complete book
Being human, scientists also sometimes engage in observational selection: they like to remember those cases when they've been right and forget when they've been wrong. But in many instances, what is 'wrong' is partly right, or stimulates others to find out what's right. One of the most productive astrophysicists of our time has been Fred Hoyle, responsible for monumental contributions to our understanding of the evolution of stars, the synthesis of the chemical elements, cosmology and much else. Sometimes he's succeeded by being right before anyone else even understood that there was something that needed explaining. Sometimes he's succeeded by being wrong - by being so provocative, by suggesting such outrageous alternatives that the observers and experimentalists feel obliged to check it out. The impassioned and concerted effort to 'prove Fred wrong' has sometimes failed and sometimes succeeded. In almost every case, it has pushed forward the frontiers of knowledge. Even Hoyle at his most outrageous for example, proposing that the influenza and HIV viruses are dropped down on Earth from comets, and that interstellar dust grains are bacteria - has led to significant advances in knowledge (although turning up nothing to support those particular notions.) Complete book
Apparently Fred Hoyle applied this theory to multiple diseases including HIV, influenza and the plague. Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wickramasinge also theorized about the possibility that life originated billions of years ago as a result of comets as they reported in "Life Cloud" 1978 (Article on Chandra Wickramasinghe web page)
Fred Hoyle is also the person who came up with the phrase "The Big Bang" which I previously argued is a Political Theory Disguised as Science as an attempt to ridicule it because it was seriously flawed; many people now refer to this theory saying that "at first there was nothing then it blew up." Yet other establishment scientist adopted this flawed theory any way, even though they still haven't addressed many of the problems with it. I usually try to minimize use of ridicule for scientific purposes but in many cases, including the "Big Bang" it's hard to resist, so I can see why Fred ridiculed it.
I'm not quite as certain that ridicule is as appropriate for explaining how the plague arrived at various locations as Hoyle and Wickramasinghe do when making there case nor is ridicule appropriate when their opponents use it. This sounds like a legitimate question; although the leading explanation by researchers like Wendy Orent seems to be that they stowed away on ships or perhaps were shipped along with food goods, which I can't completely rule out. Whether this is the case I can't say, but for it to come into these locations from a comet also seems far-fetched, although when all possibilities re far-fetched I can't rule that out either.
However his claim that stories about King Arthur, Queen Guinevere, and Lancelot could have happened is far less credible, especially since he refers to a "doubtful national legend" about Joan of Arc despite the fact that her story is far better documented than King Arthur's, which evolved over time and is full of contradictions. Some of the early stories about King Arthur refer to him as "a peerless warrior" which would be consistent with the idea of all the nights of the round table being equal. to the best of my knowledge the historical record doesn't tie him down to specific time period that is compatible with recorded history; while the record of Joan of Arc is much better kept and more credible. It's also almost as improbable as the stories of King Arthur, or at least it seems to be, yet faking this record would be even more improbable.
According to Wikipedia "Joan claimed to have received visions of the archangel Michael, Saint Margaret, and Saint Catherine of Alexandria instructing her to support Charles VII and recover France from English domination late in the Hundred Years' War." which seems highly unlikely to most skeptics, of course; however the French people of that time apparently believed her and they were almost certainly not inclined to follow a nineteen year old girl into battle, yet they did. So if she didn't receive visions or wasn't influenced by an unknown advanced intelligence that would be as unlikely if not more unlikely, and details from the trial record and retrial record add to the evidence of this.
A medieval historian should be far more aware of this, yet he still seems to consider stories about King Arthur more credible than Joan of Arc. Furthermore, historians are far more familiar with all these mystics that have guided many ancient civilizations, yet they usually side step any question about whether or not they might really have been influenced by an unknown advanced intelligence, except for supporters of the ancient aliens theory who usually make even more obvious blunders.
However, if Joan of Arc did receive a revelation from "God," as she and many other mystics clearly seem to believe, then many of the assumptions about this "God" that they make, especially about him being a higher moral authority looking out for our best interests, can't possibly be true. The common belief by many Catholics is that "God" helped the French defeat the British; however if "God" did exist, and was as benevolent as they choose to believe, without an undisclosed motive, then he would have communicated openly all along providing rational advice on how to avoid war thousands of years before Joan of Arc was even born.
Carl Sagan was right claiming that even if many alternative theories seem outrageous we should still consider them especially if traditional explanations don't explain many of these major unsolved mysteries. With all these blunders including many that are incredibly obvious, like why so many academics support the Big Bang theory, it should raise doubts about their credentials or whether or not they have an undisclosed motive of some sort.
And as I pointed out above, either there's an effort to cover up sharing of alien technology, which would be a massive effort, assuming that Philip Corso is is telling the truth or there's a massive effort to create conspiracy theorists to prop up this theory, and that effort includes an enormous number of academics and government officials either way.
If aliens have been influencing our society for thousands of years and research was part of their agenda, then they might have influenced the plague one way or another as part of this research, possibly introducing possible cures at various times, but since many of them were experimental they might not always have worked. If that's the case then it could be the explanation for why widespread plagues on a massive scale disappeared in the eighteenth century, with only much smaller outbreaks since then, even though the doctors of that time had no idea what caused it or how to prevent it.
If that is the case and they're planning to continue their research without full consent of the majority of the public, then they have to cover it up and prevent a well informed public from controlling their own government, which is happening with or without the alien research theory. As I pointed out in several articles including Researching Poor, Slaves, Prisoners, To Benefit Ruling Class With Alien Technology?; even without the alien research theory the medical community is harvesting organs from Chinese prisoners for transplants or for research.
This shows that without or without this theory we need to demand full disclosure of their activities abusing human rights for many reasons; yet the candidates that the media covers rarely if ever make a sincere effort to solve this problem or any other ones that impact profits of wealthy.
Furthermore, if there isn't some kind of research project with alien technology how are they developing medical science and many other technologies so fast, especially while the political establishment is constantly cutting funds to research and becoming more insane every year? How did Donald Trump even get elected? I went into this repeatedly including in Psst, Elections Were Rigged By Oligarchy not Russia & Evidence Was Reported Before It Happened! which argues that if the so called Deep State wanted to rig the election against Donald Trump they know how to do it and could have easily provided candidates that do a far better job pretending to care for the public, and they could have stopped him from getting elected, yet they didn't.
If on the other hand this is a massive charade to keep us distracted as part of a controlled disclosure effort so they won't have to tell the public what's going on until it suits their purposes, if ever, then it might begin to make sense. If this is the case then it could also explain why they're willing to destroy the planet for short term profit even though they have to know that climate change and other problems from pollution will eventually destroy even the ruling class, assuming they think they have a solution to it, possibly with alien technology.
However whether this is close to the truth or not there are still many details that need to be worked out. If it's not true then there has to be another explanation for how ancient megaliths were moved, how many mystics were able to influence so many people, and why the political establishment has gone insane! If there is something to it then there are an enormous number of details that need to be filled in for that too.
The following are some additional sources for this article:
Wikipedia: Joan of Arc
The trial record contains statements from Joan that the eyewitnesses later said astonished the court, since she was an illiterate peasant and yet was able to evade the theological pitfalls the tribunal had set up to entrap her. The transcript's most famous exchange is an exercise in subtlety: "Asked if she knew she was in God's grace, she answered, 'If I am not, may God put me there; and if I am, may God so keep me.'"[81] The question is a scholarly trap. Church doctrine held that no one could be certain of being in God's grace. If she had answered yes, then she would have been charged with heresy. If she had answered no, then she would have confessed her own guilt. The court notary Boisguillaume later testified that at the moment the court heard her reply, "Those who were interrogating her were stupefied."[82]
Several members of the tribunal later testified that important portions of the transcript were falsified by being altered in her disfavor. Under Inquisitorial guidelines, Joan should have been confined in an ecclesiastical prison under the supervision of female guards (i.e., nuns). Instead, the English kept her in a secular prison guarded by their own soldiers. Bishop Cauchon denied Joan's appeals to the Council of Basel and the Pope, which should have stopped his proceeding.[83]
The twelve articles of accusation which summarized the court's findings contradicted the court record, which had already been doctored by the judges.[84][85] Under threat of immediate execution, the illiterate defendant signed an abjuration document that she did not understand. The court substituted a different abjuration in the official record.[86]
Inside Russia’s long history of poisoning political enemies 03/23/2018
Poison is Russia’s weapon of choice for political assassinations 12/21/2016
A Brief History of Attempted Russian Assassinations by Poison 03/09/2018 With the announcement by British police on Wednesday that a former Russian spy was poisoned by a nerve agent, Sergei Skripal joins the long ranks of those who have run afoul of the Kremlin and subsequently fallen ill or died under what can only be described as suspicious circumstances.
Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko
Over and over again, the military has conducted dangerous biowarfare experiments on Americans 09/25/2019
Criticism to Universal Big Bang by Jian Liang Yang 02/15/2016
Problems with the Big Bang Theory by Jonathan Strickland
Bernie Sanders Says He’ll Reveal The Truth About Aliens If Elected President 08/09/2019
No comments:
Post a Comment