Friday, May 15, 2020

Forgotten History Exposing The Illusion Of Democracy & Government Reports on Weather Control



When Woodrow Wilson was president, at least he pretended to oppose war and claimed that the First World War was the "War to end all Wars" and that we were fighting to defend democratic countries against non-democratic countries, even though many of the countries we were defending weren't much more democratic than those we were fighting against.

We still get plenty of politicians speaking out against war, but few of them who stand up against it when it counts, often even the ones that we trust the most. A significant percentage of our Congress has large stock holdings in defense industries, and even more of them take large campaign contribution from the, Those not taking their campaign contribution have a hard time getting any media coverage that enables them to get the name recognition they need to be viable candidates, so they never get elected in the first place.

Yet there's little or no discussion about the major conflict of interest by politicians that profit off defense companies, campaign contributions and war; although, it wasn't always that way. Ironically the last time there was a major discussion in Congress that I know of about war profiteering and an effort to expose and prevent it was in in 1934 when they saw potential war coming in Europe, which was the most important one that might defend democracy and stop genocide, and they claimed, rightfully, that there was war profiteering during the First World War. However, when there was far more justification to discuss war profiteering as the "Military Industrial Complex" Eisenhower warned us about there was little or no debate from Congress or many Presidents. Despite Eisenhower's warning in his farewell speech he enabled the MIC to grow and participate in several coups while he was president.

Based on here were even efforts to study how to use weather modification technology in the 1960s, however incompetent they turned out to be, which sounds like fringe conspiracy theory and some of it is; however, some of this comes from Congressional investigations and government reports, so even if it is fringe conspiracy theory it's relevant since the people reporting on it also control the government, and the most recent report on this is no earlier than 2005. Lyndon Johnson allegedly even said he who "controls the weather, can control the world!" However, even though this claim is repeated throughout the internet I was unable to find the official transcripts of that speech, instead only finding several copies of his speech and none of them had good enough audio for me to confirm it, but one of them had closed caption and even though the title refereed to controlling the world, the captions in the video said "approve the weather, to improve the world!"

This was followed up, after he became president by several speeches to Congress submitting them annual reports about research to control the weather; although, most modern scientists claim that it had little or no success. His quote from the closed caption does seem a little odd, and perhaps it's the one that's wrong; I can't tell since I can't get good audio from any of the videos, but if you want to judge for yourself several of the videos are listed below at the end of the segment about alleged weather control. This doesn't mean that they weren't trying, and with Climate Change so obviously relevant today, it's worth a closer look.

Even though Johnson may not have said that he wanted to use weather control to control the world, he didn't stand up to those that did, nor did he oppose the war-mongers pushing for the Vietnam war, instead helping them bring it about. A review of several of the presidents speeches, along with some historical background about how they actually acted and other activities from the time period shows how wars based on lies abroad is part of the methods the ruling class use to suppress democracy at home. Few presidents actually did oppose wars based on lies; the most recent one that might have is Jimmy Carter, but the one that may have provided the strongest opposition was John F. Kennedy, who gave several speeches trying to bring about peace and defending the working class, the most famous is his speech at the American University just over five months before he was assassinated:

Commencement Address at American University, Washington, D.C., June 10, 1963 | JFK Library

What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their children--not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women--not merely peace in our time but peace for all time.

I speak of peace because of the new face of war. Total war makes no sense in an age when great powers can maintain large and relatively invulnerable nuclear forces and refuse to surrender without resort to those forces. It makes no sense in an age when a single nuclear weapon contains almost ten times the explosive force delivered by all the allied air forces in the Second World War. It makes no sense in an age when the deadly poisons produced by a nuclear exchange would be carried by wind and water and soil and seed to the far corners of the globe and to generations yet unborn.

Today the expenditure of billions of dollars every year on weapons acquired for the purpose of making sure we never need to use them is essential to keeping the peace. But surely the acquisition of such idle stockpiles--which can only destroy and never create--is not the only, much less the most efficient, means of assuring peace.

I speak of peace, therefore, as the necessary rational end of rational men. I realize that the pursuit of peace is not as dramatic as the pursuit of war--and frequently the words of the pursuer fall on deaf ears. But we have no more urgent task.

Some say that it is useless to speak of world peace or world law or world disarmament--and that it will be useless until the leaders of the Soviet Union adopt a more enlightened attitude. I hope they do. I believe we can help them do it. But I also believe that we must reexamine our own attitude--as individuals and as a Nation--for our attitude is as essential as theirs. And every graduate of this school, every thoughtful citizen who despairs of war and wishes to bring peace, should begin by looking inward--by examining his own attitude toward the possibilities of peace, toward the Soviet Union, toward the course of the cold war and toward freedom and peace here at home.

First: Let us examine our attitude toward peace itself. Too many of us think it is impossible. Too many think it unreal. But that is a dangerous, defeatist belief. It leads to the conclusion that war is inevitable--that mankind is doomed--that we are gripped by forces we cannot control.

We need not accept that view. Our problems are man made--therefore, they can be solved by man. And man can be as big as he wants. No problem of human destiny is beyond human beings. Man's reason and spirit have often solved the seemingly unsolvable--and we believe they can do it again. ......

Second: Let us reexamine our attitude toward the Soviet Union. It is discouraging to think that their leaders may actually believe what their propagandists write. It is discouraging to read a recent authoritative Soviet text on Military Strategy and find, on page after page, wholly baseless and incredible claims--such as the allegation that "American imperialist circles are preparing to unleash different types of wars . . . that there is a very real threat of a preventive war being unleashed by American imperialists against the Soviet Union . . . [and that] the political aims of the American imperialists are to enslave economically and politically the European and other capitalist countries . . . [and] to achieve world domination . . . by means of aggressive wars."

Truly, as it was written long ago: "The wicked flee when no man pursueth." Yet it is sad to read these Soviet statements--to realize the extent of the gulf between us. But it is also a warning--a warning to the American people not to fall into the same trap as the Soviets, not to see only a distorted and desperate view of the other side, not to see conflict as inevitable, accommodation as impossible, and communication as nothing more than an exchange of threats. ........

Among the many traits the peoples of our two countries have in common, none is stronger than our mutual abhorrence of war. Almost unique among the major world powers, we have never been at war with each other. And no nation in the history of battle ever suffered more than the Soviet Union suffered in the course of the Second World War. At least 20 million lost their lives. Countless millions of homes and farms were burned or sacked. A third of the nation's territory, including nearly two thirds of its industrial base, was turned into a wasteland--a loss equivalent to the devastation of this country east of Chicago.

Today, should total war ever break out again--no matter how--our two countries would become the primary targets. It is an ironic but accurate fact that the two strongest powers are the two in the most danger of devastation. All we have built, all we have worked for, would be destroyed in the first 24 hours. And even in the cold war, which brings burdens and dangers to so many nations, including this Nation's closest allies--our two countries bear the heaviest burdens. For we are both devoting massive sums of money to weapons that could be better devoted to combating ignorance, poverty, and disease. We are both caught up in a vicious and dangerous cycle in which suspicion on one side breeds suspicion on the other, and new weapons beget counterweapons.

In short, both the United States and its allies, and the Soviet Union and its allies, have a mutually deep interest in a just and genuine peace and in halting the arms race. Agreements to this end are in the interests of the Soviet Union as well as ours--and even the most hostile nations can be relied upon to accept and keep those treaty obligations, and only those treaty obligations, which are in their own interest. ....

Second: To make clear our good faith and solemn convictions on the matter, I now declare that the United States does not propose to conduct nuclear tests in the atmosphere so long as other states do not do so. We will not be the first to resume. Such a declaration is no substitute for a formal binding treaty, but I hope it will help us achieve one. Nor would such a treaty be a substitute for disarmament, but I hope it will help us achieve it.

Finally, my fellow Americans, let us examine our attitude toward peace and freedom here at home. The quality and spirit of our own society must justify and support our efforts abroad. We must show it in the dedication of our own lives--as many of you who are graduating today will have a unique opportunity to do, by serving without pay in the Peace Corps abroad or in the proposed National Service Corps here at home. .......

The United States, as the world knows, will never start a war. We do not want a war. We do not now expect a war. This generation of Americans has already had enough--more than enough--of war and hate and oppression. We shall be prepared if others wish it. We shall be alert to try to stop it. But we shall also do our part to build a world of peace where the weak are safe and the strong are just. We are not helpless before that task or hopeless of its success. Confident and unafraid, we labor on--not toward a strategy of annihilation but toward a strategy of peace. Complete speech


The alleged false belief, by the Soviet Union, Kennedy spoke of that "American imperialist circles are preparing to unleash different types of wars ...." wasn't entirely false during the Eisenhower administration when he supported coups in both Iran and Guatemala and escalating intervention in Vietnam, against the wishes of their own people who supported Ho Chi Minh far more than any of the leaders put in power either before or after Kennedy became president including Ngô Đình Diệm, who was put in power with the help of the Eisenhower administration, and at least one election that was clearly rigged, with help from the CIA and was still in power at the time of this speech. However, even though the Soviet belief was at least partly true Kennedy made it clear that he intended to change things so that it would no longer be true, while he was president. His promise not to conduct any more nuclear tests in the atmosphere and agreement to support the Peace Corp. were just the beginning of his efforts toward peace.

Following this speech JFK made plans to withdraw troops from Vietnam starting with 1,000 troops by the end of 1963, and depending on future events, full withdrawal by the end of 1965, as described in NSAM-263. There were several other of his speeches where he promised to help out the working class, before the most vigilante rose up against the ruling class, based on events both in Latin America and Russia, including the following speech, where he discusses what would have happened if they gave a modest raise to an obscure reporter, who later left the business and became more famous in the nineteenth century:

The President and the Press: Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association, April 27, 1961 | JFK Library

You may remember that in 1851 the New York Herald Tribune under the sponsorship and publishing of Horace Greeley, employed as its London correspondent an obscure journalist by the name of Karl Marx.

We are told that foreign correspondent Marx, stone broke, and with a family ill and undernourished, constantly appealed to Greeley and managing editor Charles Dana for an increase in his munificent salary of $5 per installment, a salary which he and Engels ungratefully labeled as the "lousiest petty bourgeois cheating."

But when all his financial appeals were refused, Marx looked around for other means of livelihood and fame, eventually terminating his relationship with the Tribune and devoting his talents full time to the cause that would bequeath the world the seeds of Leninism, Stalinism, revolution and the cold war.

If only this capitalistic New York newspaper had treated him more kindly; if only Marx had remained a foreign correspondent, history might have been different. And I hope all publishers will bear this lesson in mind the next time they receive a poverty-stricken appeal for a small increase in the expense account from an obscure newspaper man. ........

The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know. .....

It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

Nevertheless, every democracy recognizes the necessary restraints of national security--and the question remains whether those restraints need to be more strictly observed if we are to oppose this kind of attack as well as outright invasion.

For the facts of the matter are that this nation's foes have openly boasted of acquiring through our newspapers information they would otherwise hire agents to acquire through theft, bribery or espionage; that details of this nation's covert preparations to counter the enemy's covert operations have been available to every newspaper reader, friend and foe alike; that the size, the strength, the location and the nature of our forces and weapons, and our plans and strategy for their use, have all been pinpointed in the press and other news media to a degree sufficient to satisfy any foreign power; and that, in at least in one case, the publication of details concerning a secret mechanism whereby satellites were followed required its alteration at the expense of considerable time and money. .....

I have no intention of establishing a new Office of War Information to govern the flow of news. I am not suggesting any new forms of censorship or any new types of security classifications. I have no easy answer to the dilemma that I have posed, and would not seek to impose it if I had one. But I am asking the members of the newspaper profession and the industry in this country to reexamine their own responsibilities, to consider the degree and the nature of the present danger, and to heed the duty of self-restraint which that danger imposes upon us all.

Every newspaper now asks itself, with respect to every story: "Is it news?" All I suggest is that you add the question: "Is it in the interest of the national security?" And I hope that every group in America--unions and businessmen and public officials at every level-- will ask the same question of their endeavors, and subject their actions to the same exacting tests. Complete speech


His efforts to defend the working class, including Karl Marx would have gone a long way to stop extremists like Lenin and Stalin, neither of whom stood up for Marx's beliefs most of the time, although they pretended to, from rallying the working class. He didn't challenge the false stereotypes trying to equate Marx and all people trying to defend the working class as synonymous with Stalin, but he did far better than any politician with nearly as high a profile as him. However, we should be skeptical of his comments trying to encourage self-censorship from the media, even though it was accompanied by some comments defending free speech. And he could have done more to speak out in favor of more control of the media by the working class, including somewhat educated people that spoke out against the excesses of Capitalism, although it's far worse now after the consolidation that escalated in the Reagan years and reached it's peak when Bill Clinton enabled six corporations to control over 95% of national media.

He also spoke out against oppression of the working class in Latin America and made his famous comment, among those familiar with alternative media, although those relying on traditional media may never have heard this comment, about making "violent revolution inevitable," in the following excerpt:

Address on the First Anniversary of the Alliance for Progress by John F. Kennedy 03/13/1962

One year ago, on a similar occasion, I proposed the Alliance for Progress. That was the conception, but the birth did not take place until some months later, at Punta del Este. That was a suggestion for a continent-wide cooperative effort to satisfy the basic needs of the American people for homes, work, land, health and schools, for political liberty and the dignity of the spirit.

Our mission, I said, was "to complete the revolution of the Americas - to build a Hemisphere where all men can hope for a suitable standard of living - and all can live out their lives in dignity and freedom." ......

I know the difficulties of such a task. It is unprecedented. Our own history shows how fierce the resistance can be to changes which later generations regard as part of the normal framework of life. And the course of rational social change is even more hazardous for those progressive governments who often face entrenched privilege of the right and subversive conspiracies on the left.

For too long my country, the wealthiest nation in a continent which is not wealthy, failed to carry out its full responsibilities to its sister Republics. We have now accepted that responsibility. In the same way those who possess wealth and power in poor nations must accept their own responsibilities. They must lead the fight for those basic reforms which alone can preserve the fabric of their societies. Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

These social reforms are at the heart of the Alliance for Progress. They are the precondition to economic modernization. And they are the instrument by which we assure the poor and hungry - the worker and the campesino - his full participation in the benefits of our development and in the human dignity which is the purpose of all free societies. At the same time we sympathize with the difficulties of remaking deeply rooted and traditional social structures. We ask that substantial and steady progress toward reform accompany the effort to develop the economies of the American nations.

A year ago I also expressed our special friendship to the people of Cuba and the Dominican Republic and the hope that they would soon rejoin the society of free men, uniting with us in this common effort. Today I am glad to welcome among us the representatives of a free Dominican Republic; and to reaffirm the hope that, in the not too distant future, our society of free nations will once again be complete. Complete article




His prediction about "making violent revolution inevitable" has come true since then repeatedly, although in most cases the the worst violence were from oppressive ruling classes, not the working class, including the coups in Iran and Guatemala, before his presidency, the escalating war in Vietnam, coups in Chile, Honduras, Bolivia and more after he was assassinated. The most successful reforms weren't brought about by violent revolutions, though. Officially, our government has admitted to supporting the coups in Iran, Guatemala, Chile and more older coups; however, for years if not decades after these coups they made weak denials and the media helped them avoid the subject, even though the evidence was overwhelming. They're still in the weak denial stage for Honduras and Bolivia.

JFK made numerous statements indicating that he would defend the working class, both at home and abroad, especially in Latin America, as well as indicating that he would pull out of Vietnam. There were also some exaggerated claims or false quotes, like, "There is a plot in this country to enslave every man, woman, and child. Before I leave this high and noble office, I intend to expose this plot." However, even though there's no record of this quote until decades after he died, there are plenty of real quotes sending a similar message, although not quite so extreme; and there's plenty of evidence to indicate that even though this quote is false, there are many members of the ruling class that have been relentlessly trying to suppress the rights of working men both at home and abroad, when ever they could get away with it, and they got away with it much more abroad.

James Douglass made the most compelling case that I know of in JFK and the Unspeakable 2008 (Google excerpts) and there are many additional sources showing how much leading corporations have been fighting to suppress workers rights, even when it means supporting oppressive tyrants like Pinochet or the Shah; however, mainstream media provides little if any coverage for this. Douglass went into much more detail implicating the CIA as a leader of a conspiracy to assassinate JFK for these reasons, not that you should rely solely on even him. But there's no reason to rely solely on one single source as I pointed out in JFK and the Unspeakable James Douglass; my review of his book plus additional input on psychology leading to war. My article on the subject cites several other sources for research into his assassination as well.

One of the biggest disputes was whether he really did intend to commit a full withdrawal; most establishment pundits try to raise doubts about this, but in addition to the compelling case made by Douglass several other researcher confirmed this including James K. Galbraith in his articles, JFK Had Ordered Full Withdrawal from Vietnam: Solid Evidence 09/26/2017 and JFK’s Vietnam Withdrawal Plan Is a Fact, Not Speculation 11/22/2013 On important document is Wikipedia: National Security Action Memorandum 263 which no credible source disputes.

Eisenhower was of course famous for his warning about the "military-industrial complex," however; the speech that included this warning also included some cold war paranoia that justified the funding of the military-industrial complex, and most people don't remember the full speech, including at least one additional quote we should pay more attention that didn't get nearly as much attention:

Dwight D. Eisenhower’s Farewell Address January 17, 1961

Progress toward these noble goals is persistently threatened by the conflict now engulfing the world. It commands our whole attention, absorbs our very beings. We face a hostile ideology global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose, and insidious in method. Unhappily the danger it poses promises to be of indefinite duration. To meet it successfully, there is called for, not so much the emotional and transitory sacrifices of crisis, but rather those which enable us to carry forward steadily, surely, and without complaint the burdens of a prolonged and complex struggle—with liberty the stake. Only thus shall we remain, despite every provocation, on our charted course toward permanent peace and human betterment. ......

A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction.

Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations.

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence—economic, political, even spiritual—is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. .....

The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present—and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. Complete article


Eisenhower's warning about the military industrial complex certainly was welcome, but we shouldn't give him too much credit of it, since he also helped build it up, contributed to the cold war propaganda and put people in positions of power that were endangering the democracy he claimed to be defended, and participated in the coups in both Iran and Guatemala, in addition to setting the stage for the disastrous Vietnam war. David Talbot went into this much more in "The Devil's Chessboard" 2015, explaining how the Dulles Bothers often did anything they wanted to, and even on some occasions how Eisenhower seemed to be taking orders from them instead of the other way around.

One other quote from this speech hasn't gotten nearly as much attention as it deserves, "Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together." We need a much better informed citizenry than we had then or even now, partly because of inadequate educational methods. The same establishment that was controlling the propaganda given to the public back then is still at it today with more sophisticated research on indoctrinating the public; and on top of that control of the media is in the hands of a much smaller percentage of the public now than it was then. Only six corporations control over 95% of the media and the biggest independent media outlets following those six are also owned by billionaires.



Furthermore, Eisenhower made other famous quotes about every bomb or tank that we paid for was using up money that could go to schools or other productive activities that could improve the quality of life at home. There's far more propaganda effort to teach people that we have to fight wars based on lies, to "defend our freedom" than there is effort to educate the public about the most effective ways to solve our problems, and learn how to recognize those lies. Some of these lies were much bigger, in some ways, during Eisenhower's day. The paranoia about the Soviet Union began with Winston Churchill's Iron Curtain speech in 1946. Since then the United States has been trying to portray the Soviet Union or Russia as "the evil Empire;" however, at that time, even though Stalin was a tyrant, they were in no position to threaten outside powers, after the damage done to them during the war, which was much worse than the damage done to the United States or Even Britain.

They still weren't nearly as much of a threat as they portrayed them to be in 1960. The alleged missile gap that was driving the arms race was based on lies; and it was discredited numerous times. Ironically, even after being caught distorting the facts several times, they repeated the same false claims over and over again which the false missile gap being exposed several times. Each time those checking the facts proved to be right, but those repeating the lies often spoke louder and got more air time; demonstrating the accuracy of the leading principle of propaganda, "A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth," or at least it seems to.



In the most extreme reports, some of which have been verified through declassified documents or public speeches, and others which have been exaggerated, there have been numerous reports of attempts to use control of the weather as a military option to fight against the enemies. Most modern scientists now say these efforts were failures, and often attribute them to fringe conspiracy theorists. This may only be partly true since the truth is often mixed up with disinformation.

One example is the following article, which has been partially confirmed; however, the text of one of Johnson's speech's may not be quite right:

President Lyndon Johnson Approves Weather Warfare MAY 27, 1962 - 1969

“In his subcommittee’s detailed summary statement Johnson proclaimed that our very future depended on being the ones who first seized ownership of space. “Control of space means control of the world,” Johnson declared.

From space, the masters of infinity would have the power to control the earth’s weather, to cause drought and flood, to change the tides and raise the levels of the sea, to divert the gulf stream and change temperate climates to frigid. Johnson continued:

In essence, the Soviet Union has appraised control of space as a goal of such consequence that achievement of such control has been made a first aim of national policy. [In contrast], our decisions, more often than not, have been made within the framework of the Government’s annual budget. Against this view, we now have on record the appraisal of leaders in the field of science, respected men of unquestioned competence, whose valuation of what control of outer space means renders irrelevant the bookkeeping concerns of fiscal officers.” - Vice President Johnson

“It lays the predicate and foundation for the development of a weather satellite that will permit man to determine the world's cloud layer and ultimately to control the weather; and he who controls the weather will control the world” - Vice President Johnson at Southwest Texas State University (1962)

President Johnson would go on to authorize weather warfare over Vietnam.

Operation Popeye first came to public light in March 1971, when reporter Jack Anderson published a story based on a secret 1967 memo from the Joint Chiefs of Staff to President Johnson. The memo read:
“Laos operations – Continue as at present plus Pop Eye to reduce the trafficability [sic] along infiltration routes & Authorization requested to implement operational phase of weather modification process previously successful tested and evaluated in some area”. (US Senate, Subcommittee on Oceans and International Environment; 26 July 1972; p. 5).
Complete article


One of his earliest statements about weather control is from an obscure speech at Southwest Texas State University May 27 1962 which is on video at several locations on the internet, but none of them, that I can find have very good audio; however there is one with closed caption, Lyndon Johnson control the weather, to control the world! 1962 09/02/2017 which may or may not be much better, but it says, "approve the weather, to improve the world," not "he who controls the weather will control the world.” The captions may not be perfect, I certainly wouldn't have used the phrase "approve the weather," but if your in doubt you can check this video or some of the other copies I included below and judge for yourself.

The claim about Wikipedia: Operation Popeye was confirmed independently and reported by several sources including Seymour M. Hersh in the New York Times Furthermore, Lyndon Johnson made several speeches before congress, in 1966, 1967 and 1968, that are a matter of public record claiming that they had some degree of success with experiments to control the weather, and the reports that he submitted to Congress are available on the internet, at least some of them listed below:

Message to the Congress Transmitting the National Science Foundation's Annual Report on Weather Modification 02/18/1966

To the Congress of the United States: I am transmitting, for the consideration of the Congress, the Seventh Annual Report on Weather Modification (for Fiscal Year 1965) submitted to me by the Director of the National Science Foundation.

Highly encouraging steps are being taken toward establishing safe and effective programs for modifying the weather. We can now begin to see the day when such programs may be operationally feasible. This is an encouraging development—not only for Americans but for men Everywhere.

Last year, in transmitting to the Congress the Sixth Annual Report, I indicated the need for a larger effort in basic research and in the development of means to put the knowledge we have to work.

That increased effort is noted in this report. It describes not only the vigorous pursuit of weather modification programs by the agencies of the Executive Branch—but also the valuable stimulus afforded by the Committees of the Congress, and the significant activities of nongovernmental groups.

Recent Studies


The list of recent activities in this field is heartening. For example, on January 1, 1966, the first Federal regulation on weather modification became effective. The National Science Foundation issued rules providing that advance notice of intention to modify the weather must be given to the Foundation.

More recently, two significant reports by advisory groups have been issued. A two-volume study by a National Academy of Sciences Panel, released January 14, reviewed in detail the physical science aspects of weather and climate modification. Five days later the National Science Foundation’s Special Commission on Weather Modification issued a broad report covering the biological and social aspects, statistical problems and of law and organization, and international implications, as well as physical science aspects. Additional reports by the Special Commission will soon be forthcoming.

Congress, too, has indicated its interest in scheduling additional hearings on weather and climate modification during this session.

It is striking that seperate groups dealing seriously with the problem have, after long study, arrived at similar and significant conclusions.

The National Academy of Sciences report, for example, says: “In a sense, weather modification today is reality. Man can and does interfere with the atmosphere in a number of ways. His ability to produce deliberate beneficial changes is still very limited and uncertain, but it is no longer economically and politically trivial.”

The report of the Special Commission, in a markedly similar passage, says, “Weather and climate modification is becoming a reality. The daily activities of man influence the atmosphere in a number of ways and his ability to induce deliberate changes in measurable magnitude by artificial means is progressing.”

The report I submit today says it another way: “In 1965, key words are no longer ‘whether’ and ‘when.’ They are ‘what’ and ‘how’ and ‘who’.”

ProblemsAnd—Progress


Two sets of problems face us and both are difficult. One consists of finding out how to modify the weather and climate. The second consists of determining how to utilize this knowledge for the benefit of mankind once it is achieved.

The scientists and engineers inside and outside the Government must address themselves particularly to the first set of problems. All of us, as concerned citizens, must seriously consider the second.

At present it appears feasible, under appropriate conditions, to seed some kinds of clouds and achieve increased precipitation. It is also possible, under certain conditions, to dissipate some types of fog. Partial success has been reported from abroad in reducing hail damage.

As our understanding of atmospheric processes increases, our ability to do more will also increase. Even now, men are dreaming and planning of projects that will some day enable us to mitigate the awesome and terrible forces of hurricanes and tornadoes. Such a time is still far off, but perhaps not so far off as we thought only a few years ago.

That so much is being done now is a credit not only to the men of science working in the field, but also to the understanding and support of the Congress which has expressed its interest in the support of this field of great national interest. I commend to your continuing interest this report and the important efforts that it describes.

Lyndon B. Johnson
The White House
February 18, 1966

Note: The report transmitted to the President on January 12, is entitled “Weather Modification: Seventh Annual Report, 1965” (Government Printing Office, 109 pp.).

The President also referred to a report published by the National Academy of Sciences, dated January1966 and entitled “Weather and Climate Modification—Problems and Prospects” (2vols., 28pp. And 198 pp.), and to a report of the Special Commission on Weather Modification, National Science Foundation, entitled “Weather and Climate Modification” (149 pp.). Complete article


Message to the Congress Transmitting National Science Foundation's Annual Report on Weather Modification 07/19/1967

To the Congress of the United States:

I am pleased to transmit the Eighth Annual Report of the National Science Foundation covering the activities of the Federal Government in the field of weather modification during the fiscal year 1966.

To some, a storm is but an inconvenience, a fog is but an hour’s delay. But to millions of others—in America and around the world—the weather can spell the difference between shelter and homelessness, between nourishment and starvation, between life and death.

This report provides clear evidence that progress is being made toward our goal of developing the capacity to modify the weather for the benefit of all mankind.

In the period covered by this Report, we found that:
—Precipitation from some types of clouds may be increased by as much as ten percent by seeding.

—Seeding of thunderstorm clouds may reduce significantly the number of lightning strikes. —The incidence of hail may be reduced by heavy seeding.

—Large bodies of cold ground fog may be dissipated through the use of dry ice or silver iodide.

—Mathematical models will be increasingly useful for experimentation with techniques for controlling hurricanes and tornadoes.

For all our progress, we have still only scratched the surface. To develop the full potential of weather modification, we must continue our research and experimentation. We must bring to the effort our best skills and our most advanced technologies. We must better organize our efforts in this area.

And we must join with other nations in the search for solutions, for the weather respects no national boundary.

I commend this—Report of progress and of challenge—to your attention.

Lyndon B. Johnson
The White House
July 19, 1967

Note: This report transmitted is entitled “Weather Modification: Eighth Annual Report, 1966” (Government Printing Office, 132 pp.). Complete article


Message to the Congress Transmitting National Science Foundation's Annual Report entitled Weather Modification 09/26/1968

To the Congress of the United States:

For centuries man has been the helpless prey of the elements, dependent on the weather for food, health, and even survival. Only recently have we discovered that, through science, weather can be modified for the benefit of mankind.

It is, then, with pleasure that I transmit the Ninth Annual Report on Weather Modification, for fiscal year 1967.

During that year, research and field testing was increased, and action was taken by several Federal Agencies to discover the social and ecological problems of weather modification. We Know that:

—Among all types of storms, hailstorms, which can severely damage crops and property, show the greatest promise for successful modification in the near future.

—Cold fog, which can cause hazards and delays at airports, can be dissipated by the application of dry ice or chemicals.

—The dynamics of cloud processes can be studied through computer-controlled, small-scale models.

This program is a pioneering effort in man’s struggle to control his environment. In the coming years we must work with other nations to apply our whole range of technological skills to the problems of weather modification. I commend this report to your attention.

Lyndon B. Johnson
The White House
September 26, 1968

Note: The report is entitled “Weather Modification: Ninth Annual Report, 1967: National Science Foundation” (Government Printing Office, 101 pp.). Complete article


Clearly there were a lot of scientists and politicians that thought they had a good chance of developing technology to manipulate the weather back in the sixties, and this began no later than the late fifties, continuing to this day. Most of this discussion hasn't been presented to the public in a high profile manner; but there were at least ten annual reports on the subject, perhaps starting with one at the end of the Eisenhower administration, although I haven't found a record of him submitting a report to congress and continuing at least into the Nixon administration. Therfe was at least one other report covering three consecutive years following this period and a much more recent one from 2005, indicating they're still at it.

On the rare occasion that it is reported to the public in the mainstream media it's often downplayed or ridiculed including a video of Michio Kaku: Can We Control the Weather? 05/20/2011 where he acknowledges the efforts in Vietnam and refers to it as a "hair-brained scheme," which it may be for all I know. But the government spent at least ten years with the help from leading scientists from that time on this "hair-brained scheme," which makes it a serious matter. In this videoMichio Kaku claims that any successful efforts to control the weather are at least a hundred years into the future; however, by 2017 he seems to think otherwise. If it's a "hair-brained scheme," then we need to put policies in place to prevent any more of these efforts, and we need to disclose the details and explain t to the public. Furthermore, there's still a possibility that it's not quite so hair-brained as it seems, either that or that even Dr Michio Kaku might be involved in another hair-brained scheme.

For starters, a report as recent as 2005 a report based on Congressional hearings indicates they're still conducting this kind or reseaerch, and there are still some that think it can be done sooner rather than later, or perhaps that it's already happening, WEATHER MODIFICATION AND S. 517, THE WEATHER MODIFICATION RESEARCH AND TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER AUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2005 11/10/2005 PDF In this hearing Senator Jim DeMint opens a meeting by saying:
As I understand, the genesis of this legislation was to help provide relief to drought-stricken farmers in West Texas and across the Nation. As we are all aware, weather modification technologies have been pursued for a number of years. For decades, the Federal Government has dedicated significant resources to weather modification research, and State and local governments continue to spend millions on both operational weather modification technologies and weather modification research.

Shortly after saying this he goes on to say that many people are skeptical about this and that most of the research is to understand how weather works, which supposedly should be done before trying to modify it, implying that "operational weather modification technologies" are still supposedly being kept to a minimum, while they're focusing mostly on research. This is routine, constantly making contradictory statements, so that it's difficult to know what they mean.

The same goes for Dr Michio Kaku, six years after he claimed that weather modification was at least a hundred years into the future he went on CBS and explained that they're already experimenting with increasing rain with lasers, Dr Michio Kaku: Laser weather modification 09/09/2017 (Video with Closed Caption available) In this video he claims that it's still experimental and has lots of limitations, but seems to indicate they've already had some degree of success. After he explains some of this one of the news anchors says she heard about both Russia and China trying experiments like this in the past; and Michio Kaku responds by discussing the USA experiments from the sixties.

At this point one of the anchors interrupts to say "allegedly" implying that it's inconclusive, and Michio agrees and says yea "allegedly." Conspiracy theorists have made a big deal out of this, with some good reason, not that it matters. One reason they had good reason to make an issue of this is that the anchors didn't use this term when referring to Russia or China; another reason why, is that there are government reports saying that these attempts were made, successful or not, so it's not just alleged research, it actually happened, and they admit it. The reason it doesn't matter that much is that even though the conspiracy theorists are jumping all over it and saying they caught them, most people not familiar with the subject won't know this is true, and aren't going to check the details so they'll just think they're behaving like crazy conspiracy theorists, thanks to all the propaganda about conspiracy theorists.

I'm not completely ruling out the possibility they understood this beforehand.

I went into some of Michio Kaku's claims about weather control in a previous article, Hurricane Apocalypse Coming With or Without Fringe Conspiracy Theory which also speculates about the possibility that some of Philip Corso's claims in "The Day After Roswell," that he shared technology obtained from aliens might be at least partly true; and, if so, then it must be part of something much bigger, and that the advanced technology being shared could even include research on weather modification.

Additional evidence might come from the alleged "Miracle of the Sun" that happened in 1917, where a strange event was predicted by three children in may that would happen on the 13th of each of the next five months with the biggest event happening on October 13th the final month as I explained in UFO Hypothesis Far More Credible Than Catholic Claim of A "Miracle Of The Sun" and events on both August 13th and October 13th, and possibly some of the other events included some very strange weather events that thousands of people witnessed. There's a possibility that this may be evidence of both a connection between UFOs and religion and some degree of weather control ability or research.

I also went into this more in Could Steve Bannon Be Providing Propaganda To Enable Climate Change Research Project? which discusses the fact that before Steve Bannon became a radical denier of Climate Change, he was part of a research project, Biosphere 2, which studies this, implying that he must know more about the subject than he lets on. This create's enough evidence to show that either aliens have been sharing technology with the political and scientific establishment; or there's a massive effort to make it seem like they are, which would be almost as bizarre. However that explanation wouldn't explain many major unsolved mysteries, including how scientific advancements happened so fast over the past seventy years, especially over the past twenty or thirty, and would raise even more questions about their motive.

There's no doubt that even if these experiments were a total failure, they put an enormous amount of effort into it and spent an enormous amount of money; and even provided some legal background in obscure locations that few will look at including this 1968 article that's been virtually forgotten, by the few who ever heard of it, Weather Modification: Law and Administration Spring 1968 which says:
If the scientists can control the weather, the people of the earth have the right to look forward to improved conditions in agriculture, climate and health. Enroute to this goal, however, there will necessarily be pitfalls and failures. Because the scientist employs the methods of trial and error, some way must be developed to safeguard the nations of the earth from possibly devastating results of the errors. Safeguards mean controls, and controls of value must be based on knowledge of proposed experiments, sound appraisals of their validity, and a license based on an authority which can refuse or limit as well as consent. This means an international, supra-national system of licensing, inspection and reporting. p.234

Occasionally, like the 2005 congressional hearing where they admit research into at least understanding, if not manipulating the weather is still going on today. Official reports are practically never mentioned in the mainstream media, but they are available in the academic world, including a few that I was able to find, once I knew what to look for. However, except for the 2005 report the majority of the reports submitted to the government on an annual basis were in the sixties, with ten annual reports, followed up by one more report covering a three year period from 1969 to 1971. Why did they end there? That's explain in the tenth annual report where they mention the revocation of a 1958 law requiring these annual reports, which amount to disclosure, and explaing the sucesses failures, and some potential risks as indicated in the following excerpts from the tenth annual report:

Weather Modification: Tenth Annual Report, 1968

Long-term observations in the laboratory and in the field indicate that glaciated clouds may produce up to 33 percent fear cloud-to-ground lightning strokes than untreated clouds if the storm is observed as a whole. An interesting correlation was also observed between the number of lightning discharges from the cloud and the formation of hail. P.2

ESSA weather modification activities in 1968 included the continuing study of Great Lakes snowstorms, with the eventual objective of modifying these storms so that snowfall will be distributed over a wider area inland from lakeshore communities. Aircraft and ground-based observations leading to better understanding of the storms were conducted in the winter of 1967-68 in preparation for cloud seeding experiments scheduled for the following winter season. P.2-3

In the summer of 1968, the White Sands Missile Range, N. Mex., became the site of a joint Army, Navy, Air Force project for the study of convective cloud systems, using extensive facilities for observing meteorological variables and cloud development. Results of observations on the growth of seeded and nonseeded cloud systems were used to test mathematical models incorporating many features of the model developed by ESSA,NSF grantees, and contractors of the Bureau of Reclamation.

Air Weather Service conducted a number of fog dissipation tests in fiscal year 1968 at operational Air Force bases. At Elmendorf Air Force Base in Alaska, dry ice dispensed from an aircraft was successful in clearing the runway on 28 occasions, permitting 125 takeoffs and landings which otherwise would have been delayed. The use of helicopter downwash to dissipate ground fog was tested with good results at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida.

Under sponsorship of NASA, warm fog dissipation tests were conducted by Cornell Aeronautical Laboratory, including a theoretical analysis on the use of crystals for the dissipation of warm fog through condensation and coagulation processes. The study showed that the size of the salt particle is critical to effectiveness in dissipating fog with a minimum of corrosive residue. Salt in the vicinity of 20 microns in diameter was determined by the Cornell investigators to be the most effective compromise under the circumstances, and tests in the laboratory fog chamber confirmed the theoretical study. Field tests based on this laboratory work were initiated at Elmira, N.Y., in the summer of 1968, with results to date showing considerable promise. P.3

It is established that application of varying seeding techniques, based on detailed preliminary analysis of the meteorological parameters in each case, could result in substantial increases in snowfall in the Rocky Mountain region. The Bureau of Reclamation plans to utilize the findings of the Colorado State group in the Colorado River pilot project, now in organizational stage and scheduled for implementation by commercial contractors in the winter of 1969-70. P.4

Weather Modification Research in Foreign Countries


Operational cloud seeding is being conducted in several parts of Australia, most of the work under sponsorship of the State Agricultural and Public Works Departments. Controlled tests are being performed in Tasmania, with seeding conducted on alternate years to study patterns of precipitation downwind from the target area.

Other reports from Australia tend to support the growing belief that air pollution resulting from human activities may have an effect on natural atmospheric processes. J. Warner of the Australian CSIRO (Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization) Laboratories notes that a recent significant reduction in rainfall in Tasmania and Queensland appears to be directly connected with smoke released from the burning of sugarcane slash. It is believed that the burning cane releases large quantities of condensation nuclei into the atmosphere, thus altering the average size of cloud droplets and making it more difficult for natural processes to form raindrops large enough to fall out as precipitation. Warner relates the pattern of precipitation to the cane-harvesting season, pointing out that it has become particularly noticeable in recent years with major increases in cane production.

A precipitation augmentation project has been conducted in India over a period of almost 10 years. The technique used consists of seeding convective clouds with salt, either in brine solution of predetermined concentration or in the form of pulverized particles. Seeding operations have been carried out both in mountain regions and in areas of the central plains.

Results reported by the Indian experiment indicate a fairly consistent increase in rainfall. Increases of about 40 percent are recorded for individual seeding days, with a probable net increase of about 20 percent for the entire monsoon season.

Russian scientists have been interested in hail suppression for a number of years and one technique used consists of firing explosive artillery shells, loaded with silver iodide, into the center of the storm where the supercooled droplet content is high and before large hailstones have had a chance to form. Introduction of the artificial nuclei means that many small hailstones must compete for the liquid water available. The result is that hailstones remain small, and therefore melt before reaching the ground.

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The NSF in 1968 supported an analysis of a hail suppression project conducted by a commercial operator in Africa under sponsorship of the Kenya Tea Growers Association. Seeding of storms with silver iodide is performed by using pyrotechnic generators mounted on a light aircraft. Success is measured on the basis of estimates of “made tea,” that is tea which would have been damaged or destroyed in the absence of seeding. The operators claim that damage from seeded storms is substantially less than that from nonseeded storms p.4-5

Congressional Activities


Public Law 90-407, signed by the President on July 18, 1968, changes some of the authority and responsibilities assigned to NSF. In particular, the new law repeals Public Law 85-510 of 1958 which directed the Foundation to “initiate and support a program of study, research, and evaluation in the field of weather modification, *** and to report annually to the President and Congress thereon.” Repeal of Public Law 85-510 also voids the Federal Regulation (published under the authority) making it mandatory for weather modification operators in the field to notify NSF of their activities in advance, to submit quarterly activity reports, and to maintain logbooks of their activities for a period of at least 5 years. The date for termination of the functions specified was established as September 1, 1968. P.6-7

Probably no other area of Federal weather research is as well coordinated at the working level as that of weather modification. A determined effort has been made by the Federal agencies to structure their programs to permit the maximum use of inter-agency or joint agency facilities and talents and to prevent any undesirable duplication of effort. P.9

Rainmaking, as an art, has been attempted since the earliest days of human history. As a science, however, it began in November 1946 when Irving Langmuir and Vincent J. Schaefer demonstrated that snow could be produced from a cold stratus deck of clouds by dropping dry ice into it from an aircraft. p.10

..... While there is no assurance that these latent nuclei were produced by lead from automotive exhausts, it is significant that why are found in greater numbers over centers of population.

University of Illinois researchers have recently reported an amazing increase in the amount of rainstorms and lightning reported by the weather observer at La Porte, Ind. A check of the area has revealed that this increase was noted only in the area where the steel mill effluents from Gary, Ind., were carried over Lake Michigan by the winds to the vicinity of La Porte. Furthermore, there was a remarkable correlation between the periods of steel mill operation and the occurrence of severe storms in the downwind pattern at La Porte. While this unusual pattern of weather at La Porte could be a chance occurrence over a large number of years. It does appear to fit a pattern of the relationship of air pollution to anomalies in weather patterns. P. 17

The results have shown an approximate increase of 0.2 percent of carbon dioxide per year which is believed to be the result of the combustion of fossil fuel by man. Computer calculations show that an eventual doubling of the mount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere could result in a 2° C. rise in temperature at the earth’s surface and a drop in temperature at the 40,000-foot level of approximately 15° C. p.19-20

The feasibility of this technique in the field is also being explored by the Esso Research Laboratories of the Humble Oil Co., where additional studies are also in progress. P.30 Africa

The NSF has provided a small amount of support to Atmospherics, Inc., in 1968 to analyze the results of a hail suppression project conducted by this commercial operator in Kericho, Kenya, under sponsorship of the Kenya Tea Growers Association. p.58

The materials used by World Weather are considered proprietary by that company however, their composition has been revealed to the State of California weather modification licensing board and certified to be not harmful in the manner and concentrations used. P.67

This technique has been used successfully under operational conditions in Southeast Asia when a downed airman was rescued from beneath a blanket of heavy clouds which obscured the ground. The downed pilot had parachuted onto a ridge hidden by a solid layer of clouds approximately 500 feet thick. He was located at an elevation of about 3,200 feet on a typical tropical day punctuated by occasional rain showers. Two HH-53B (Super Jolly Green Giant) helicopters made repeated slow passes over the clouds above the airman, and the clouds parted in about 20 minutes. The hole remained while one helicopter hovered and recovered the pilot from a cluster of 100-foot trees. Clouds immediately closed the hole after the rescue. P.69

Wikipedia: Sikorsky MH-53 The HH-53 "Super Jolly Green Giant" was initially developed to replace the HH-3E "Jolly Green Giant".

Recent measurements have indicated that complete glaciation of the cloud system can be accomplished with much less silver Iodide than formerly believed possible. The result of 5 years of experimentation indicate that the glaciated clouds produced on the average of 33 percent fearer cloud to ground lightning strokes than untreated clouds if the storm is observed as a whole p.79-80 It has sometimes been suggested that a mature hurricane is an unstable system, and may be weakened by some means requiring little expenditure, if one can learn how to “trigger” the instability. The present model does not disprove this, but as yet lends no support to such a possibility. P.96

..... As the practicality of meaningful weather modification grows every day more promising, the social, economic, legal, and ecological implications involved demand an increasing share of attention. The human consequences of deliberate or inadvertent modification of natural processes must be understood and evaluated in advance. The extent and complexity of potential effects on human life and the ecology are only beginning to receive serious study by investigators in the many disciplines involved.

In fiscal year 1967, the NSF requested the National Center for Atmospheric Research at Boulder, Colo., to organize a task group on the human dimensions of the atmosphere with the objective of focusing attention on the social, economic, legal and ecological aspects of weather and the possible impact of weather modification. The task group was chaired by Dr. W. R. Derrick Sewell of the University of Victoria, British Columbia, and included 12 other prominent social, economic, legal, and ecological experts from universities throughout the United States. After a year of study and discussion, the report has been published by the NSF in 1968 under the title “Human Dimensions of the Atmosphere” NSF 68-18. While this report ….. (Unable to find this report on the internet.) p.102

.... Electric power companies that have undertaken programs to increase precipitation believe that the effort is an economical way of improving their operating efficiency. The gains from lightning suppression and from cold fog dispersal are also believed to be substantial.

.... For example, no means have yet been found to confine the effects of using the atmosphere for waste disposal only to the users. Nor have means been found to confine the effects of modifying the weather to those who desire the modification. One farmer may need additional moisture, but his neighbor may suffer considerable losses if such moisture falls on his land too. Similarly, the precipitation which enables the hydroelectric power company to increase its profits may also ruin the vacation of the tourist. But these external effects are not always harmful. In some cases, those who do not contract for weather modification may benefit from its results and may therefore experience windfall gains. P.103

The general view seems to be that no urgency for answers exists so long as it remains impossible in specific cases to prove that the weather has in fact been modified in ways to cause particular results. However, the ability to modify the weather on a more consistent basis is rapidly developing. As this capability grows, the problem of proving occurrence and cause diminishes. ......

The fact that weather modification efforts are increasing and that these activities have important external effects makes it inevitable that some form of governmental control will be required. What types of controls are needed? Is it sufficient to require licensing of operations, or is it also necessary to require that information on results be furnished? At what level of government should control be vested? Should regulation be in the hands of local, State, or Federal authorities? Should the Federal Government control only those weather modification attempts that might affect more than one State or other countries, and leave control of other modification activities to State and/or local authorities? P.104

To this end, an expanded program of research on the economic, social, and institutional aspects of the atmosphere as a resource is proposed. If this is done now, political, social, and legal institutions may be better prepared to deal with future crises as air pollution reaches generally unacceptable levels, and as conflicts arise among users, each seeking to manipulate the weather to his own advantage. P.105

As a direct result of the task force report, the Foundation sponsored a joint “Conference on the Legal Aspects of Weather and Climate Modification” with Southern Methodist University in Dallas, Tex., which was held in December 1967. This 2-day conference was attended by 50 members of the legal, scientific, commercial, Federal, and State administrative communities who have been active in weather modification activities, and was designed as a forum for the exchange of ideas on the need for establishing a new administrative and legal framework for weather modification. A report of the proceedings and the conclusions of this conference has been published by Oceana Press edited by Howard J. Taubenfeld under the title “Weather Modification and the Law.”

…. They will recommend several possible approaches to the regulation of weather modification activities, the licensing or certification of qualified operators, the problem of liability and insurance for operators, and suggest various approaches to legislation which might be initiated in the near future at either the State or Federal level. ....

The University of Arizona has completed a study on the legal implications of weather modification under the sponsorship of the Bureau of Reclamation. Four reports have been prepared which serve as legal guidelines for atmospheric water resources management under the existing legal structure. P.106

Social Aspects


A study has been initiated by the Foundation with the Department of Sociology at the University of Colorado to study the reactions of the public to weather modification activities, and to recommend more fruitful approaches to the exchange of information with the public. The investigators will sample public reactions in areas where weather modification is taking place, areas where weather modification is about to take place, and areas where weather modification is not taking place but the residents are convinced to the contrary.

Three areas have now been chosen for study under this project where weather modification activities are planned by the Bureau of Reclamation and ESSA. These are located at Dunkirk, N.Y.; Logan Utah; and Bozeman, Mont. p.106-7

The Bureau of Reclamation has initiated a project with the Travelers Research Center in Hartford, Conn., to formulate a simple model to study the effects of artificial nucleation over relatively large areas and the feasibility of surface or aircraft seeding. The qualitative value of precipitation augmentation over the Connecticut River Valley has now been established with respect to municipal water supply, pollution abatement, power generation, and recreation. P.107

…. As a result of experience with a winter program of cold fog dissipation at 24 commercial airports during the past several years, United Air Lines has arrived at a preliminary estimate of benefit-cost ratio in the vicinity of 5 to 1.

Ecological Aspects


The Department of Agriculture Joint Task Force on Weather Modification ….. It states:

“Weather modification …... Society, as a whole, then must be involved in determining whether weather modification is the most attractive and acceptable alternative for producing more food and fiber in this nation and improving man’s environment. P.108

Fiscal year 1968 has seen an increase in the participation of the social scientist in the problems of the social, economic, legal, and ecological impact of weather modification upon modern society. The participation, however, is still far below the needs of the country if answers are to be available in time to meet the pace of technological capability and the application of these capabilities. The pilot project initiated by the Bureau of Reclamation in the Upper Colorado River Basin is only the first of such steps to attempt to hasten atmospheric water augmentation as an operational reality. Answers to many of the pressing social, economic, legal and ecological answers are needed now while the operational programs are still in the planning and pilot stage.

……

It is obvious that the ultimate development of successful weather control procedures requires that society learn how to use them well, and with a deep sense of understanding of the ultimate potential for both gain and loss. p.109

On July 18, 1968, Public Law 90-407 was signed by the President which provided, among other things, for modification of the scope of research activities by the National Science Foundation. Incorporated in this law was a clause repealing Public Law 85-510 as of September 1, 1968, under which the Foundation was required to maintain records of all field applications of weather modification activity and to report annually to the President and Congress. With this termination of the authority derived from Public Law 85-510, the Foundation amended its Federal Regualtion 45 CFR 632 to delete the mandatory aspects of reporting and to request voluntary reporting from field operators of weather modification activities in the interest of scientific research. Since no Federal agency has been assigned authority to maintain or operate a mandatory reporting system as of September 1, 1968, the Federal Council for Science and Technology has requested the Foundation to continue to maintain these records on a voluntary submission basis until responsibility is assigned elsewhere.

….. It will be noted that the area reported each year to be under weather modification treatment increased in fiscal year 1967 over that of fiscal year 1966 by approximately 10 percent but declined sharply in fiscal year 1968. There is no way from the available records to assess this drop in reported area or operation except to note that in many cases operators have become much more conservative in estimating the size of the area to be affected by their seeding operations. ... p.111

From the table it is also noted that the number of reported projects dropped from 79 in fiscal year 1968, which might indicate that some new projects were not reported to the Foundation in the summer of 1968 due to the anticipated termination of Public Law 85-510. It is noted that the number of new projects reported under the voluntary reporting system since September 1, 1968, is considerably reduced over a similar period in the previous years when mandatory reporting was in effect. This appears to emphasize the need for reestablishing a mandatory reporting system at the earliest possible date if the scientific value of the reporting information is to be retained. In past years there were several instances where experimenters were alerted to possible interference patterns in their patterns in their operation and were able to get together to resolve possible conflicts. From this standpoint alone, Federal reporting has been of considerable value to both the Federal research establishment and the scientific community as a whole. These records have also been of great value to the general public in establishing the presence or absence of seeding activity in their geographic localities. P.111-2

The structure of the national weather-modification program has not--in one vital respect-- been strengthened since the time of our previous study in 1962. The NAS panel on weather and climate modification in 1966 called the same problem a “fragmentation of effort.” We reiterate it now in terms of the need for more “interactive research.” p.135

Complete article


The revocation of the law, requiring annual reports, should raise major alarm bells. This also eliminates the requirement of coordinating with each other; the scientific community responded to this be declaring that it's in their best interest to do this so they intend to continue with that anyway. But the disclosures, on a regular basis stopped, before the field of research got much more complicated, assuming it did. Without disclosure laws we have no way of knowing if that's the case, so we can't completely rule out some of the conspiracy theories about it. The scientific community often tries to debunk these conspiracy theories, as they should, at least for the ones that are bad; however, without disclosure laws, we have no way of being certain. So if the scientific community was sincere about debunking conspiracy theories they should demand a reinstatement of the Public Law 85-510 of 1958 which required annual reports submitted to the President, Congress, and disclosed to the public, among other things.

Edit 06/12/2020: After reading the full report additional excerpts above, and some of the following comments were added:

Near the end of the report they recommend increased disclosure and efforts to involve the public in the decision making. This clearly hasn't been done. In the actual report they don't make it clear that they oppose the revocation of the Public Law 85-810; however, at the begging of the first Appendix they clearly state that they oppose it and recommend that a new law demanding disclosure an coordination be passed as soon as possible. To the best of my knowledge this hasn't been done; there certainly isn't a significant effort to inform the public about what they're doing, otherwise we would all know more about the subject. Even when this law was in place some of their activities were "considered proprietary" or secret, including materials used by World Weather;" and the authors of the report didn't question this, and added that the information was disclosed to the "State of California weather modification licensing board and certified to be not harmful in the manner and concentrations used." However, way to many regulators have been caught covering up for the corporations they've been regulating over the decades, especially when they have financial ties to politicians that appoint regulators.

The lack of disclosure laws also ensures that there will be far fewer potential court cases, since people potentially harmed by weather control research won't know that it's not entirely accidental. The Weather Modification: Law and Administration Spring 1968 cited above mentioned two major lawsuits as a result of weather manipulation practices that had already been filed, Slutsky v. City of New York 05/11/1950 and Southwest Weather Research, Inc. v. Jones 07/08/1959 I can't say for certain how much if any justification there was for these lawsuits; however, if there wasn't any justification, then the disclosure laws would help prove that. If there was justification then that's all the more reason why we need disclosure laws to protect the potential victims.

This report also clearly indicates some degree of success with many of these experiments, or at least they claimed to. I don't think Michio Kaku meant that all of these experiments were a "hair-brained scheme," but that may have been the impression that he gave his listeners, on at least one of the tapes cited above. Officially these global experiments are being done by separate countries, without official coordination. However, that may not be quite true. Several of these countries including Kenya weren't advanced industrial countries with the ability to conduct complicated weather modification experiments, strongly implying they might have had help, which may have come with some degree of coordination. Russia was also involved in these experiments, and they were advanced enough to do it; however, this was the height of the Cold War, when we were told that there was little or no sharing of technology and everything was done in secret. The fact that they shared this information in the late sixties clearly indicates this wasn't entirely true, and there was some communication, possibly including more coordination than they admit to.

They had a significant amount of evidence showing that pollution and other industrial activities were having a negative impact on the weather, although they didn't use the phrases "Climate Change" or "Global Warming" until later. Yet there was little or no effort to inform the public about it or try to stop the damage being done. Furthermore, this report shows that Esso and Humble Oil were both involved in weather modification. They merged a few years later and became part of Exxon, which is now ExxonMobil. This is a brazen conflict of interests, since they've been profiting off of pollution without informing the public since then. They're filthy rich and many poor people are paying the price for their activities with their lives! Additional corporations involved in Weather Modification include Travelers Insurance and American Airlines. Their conflicts of interests may not be quite as extreme; however, if the public is being impacted by Weather Modification there should be more efforts to educate them and involve them in the decision making process, as the report recommends.

The report also indicates that the United States has been involved in Weather Modification around the world, in third world countries where people aren't educated enough to participate in the decision making process, including in Africa and Southeast Asia during military activities, which are clearly either in Vietnam or one of the surrounding countries that were being bombed at that time. The report also mentions many other related reports which the scientists are aware of, but little effort has been made to inform the public about them. A search of the internet for most of them shows they're not easily available, although I may add links to those that are soon.

This may be more likely if it is a result of research with the help of shared alien technology, and the cold war, and other activities, are part of a cover-up to hide their activities, often with the poor or disenfranchised paying the price for the experiments, while the wealthy get the benefits.

What's far easier to find, on social media, is what looks like fringe conspiracy theorists that have little or no credibility, making wild claims. These conspiracy theorists often claim specific storms, which kill hundreds if not thousands, were intentionally created for one reason or another, which usually doesn't make any sense. There's little or no chance that the most extreme of these conspiracy theorists are completely right; however, if this research continues to go in in virtual secret, with only small pieces of information released in obscure locations, I wouldn't rule out the possibility that the conspiracy theorists are partly right about some of it, although it's unlikely the government intentionally created specific storm. But they could be what that article warns of as "devastating results of the errors" from weather modification research, in most cases hitting those with the least amount of political power the worst.

But even if these theories are wrong there's agreement on the claim that Climate Change is man made, which would mean that this is a form of influencing the weather or Geoengineering, intentionally or not. Congress and numerous presidents have indicated they're interested in using weather modification, yet they routinely ignore one of the most fundamental principles, if this is the case, “first, do no harm.” The leading implied explanation for this is incredible amounts of greed on behalf of the oil companies and other businesses profiting from the short term destruction of the environment. Jim DeMint who opened the 2005 meeting about weather control research, for one example, has at least four or five of the top twenty industries donating to his campaigns profiting off of the destruction of the environment, and at least half a dozen more of those twenty that may be indirectly profiting off the destruction of the environment.

However, they have to know, assuming they actually want to know, that this is a major factor when it comes to controlling the weather. Furthermore, they also have to know that if they continue on as they currently are then they'll lead to epidemic levels of environmental destruction that will eventually destroy even the elites, although it's people in poor countries, or the poorest part of this country that will pay the price for their epidemic levels of corruption first.

Are they insane? Or suicidal? If they don't recognize this and have a plan to at least save themselves and their own descendants then, yes, they are.

But the establishment has accomplished enough incredibly advanced achievements that they shouldn't have been able to do, if they were that fanatical; and this explanation still doesn't explain many of the major unsolved mysteries surrounding UFOs advanced technology, megaliths moved with primitive technology, mystics, and more.

There's a strong possibility that there could be something to this theory. If so, and if the aliens have been around for thousands of years, they've intentionally withheld solutions to many of our biggest problems that could have prevented many wars, environmental disasters, plagues, and much more. This would clearly indicate that they've been treating us as expendable for thousands of years. This raises additional possibilities, like that part of the reason for the Vietnam War was so they could have an opportunity to conduct weather control experiments.

Whether or not we've been influenced by aliens, there's still enough evidence to indicate that the best education available is being withheld from the majority of the public intentionally, and many of the most effective solutions are as well.

However, if there is something to it, and we put an end to the insane activities of our corrupt leaders, then there's a chance they can share the results of this research, although we should immediately stop the damage being done and begin reversing it, with the science that we can be sure of first. If this is the case then they have little or no credibility, and we should be skeptical of the possibility that they're only trying to carry out another scam, so it will take a long time reviewing and confirming any research that may have come from this.

Whether this theory is true there are many things that we should be sure of including the fact that our government is the leading arms supplier of the world routinely arming both sides of conflicts, and that we can end most of these by simply stopping that; we need to reform our economy so that we're not destroying the planet; we need to provide the best education possible to everyone; we need Single Payer health care; and many other basic things that are easily understood.







The following are some additional related articles, including some of the annual Weather Modification reports:

President Lyndon Johnson Approves Weather Warfare MAY 27, 1962 - 1969

1962: “HE WHO CONTROLS THE WEATHER, WILL CONTROL THE WORLD” (LBJ) 11/19/2017

Lyndon Johnson control the weather, to control the world! 1962 09/02/2017

Vice President Johnson Receives Honorary Degree from Southwest Texas State College, May 1962

1962: “He Who Controls The Weather, Will Control The World” (LBJ) Post by Harold Saive – Vice President Johnson at Southwest Texas State University (1962)

LBJ Predicts Geoengineering Will Control the Weather to Control the World 1962 11/22/2017

Tucson-based Raytheon wins $900M contract to develop new nuclear cruise missile 08/24/2017

David Talbot "The Devil's Chessboard" 2015

Richard Nixon, 37th President of the United States: 1969 ‐ 1974 Message to the Congress Transmitting the National ... Science Foundation Report on Weather Modification. 10/27/1969

John F. Kennedy Message to the Congress Transmitting the National Science Foundation's 1961 Annual Report on Weather Modification 08/27/1962

John F. Kennedy Message to the Congress Transmitting the National Science Foundation's 1960 Annual Report on Weather Modification presented by Lyndon Baines Johnson 07/18/1961

It is an honor to transmit herewith to the National Science Foundation the report of the Special Commission on Weather Modification, authorized by the National Science Board at its meeting on October 17-18, 1963, 12/20/1965

WEATHER MODIFICATION AND S. 517, THE WEATHER MODIFICATION RESEARCH AND TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER AUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2005 11/10/2005

A Recommended National Program In Weather Modification 11/07/1966

Wikipedia: Operation Popeye

Rainmaking Is Used As Weapon by U.S. July 3, 1972 By Seymour M. Hersh

WEATHER MODIFICATION: THE EVOLUTION OF AN R&D PROGRAM INTO A MILITARY OPERATION 10/21/1975 In the summer of 1972, however, it was reported that the United States had been using weather modification techniques in the Indochina War from 1967 through 1972 in an effort to increase rainfall as an adjunct to military operations. (3) Several U.S.Congressional Hearings then followed, both in the Senate and the House, and in one of these two years later in 1974, an official administration confirmation of the program was made

Selected Speeches and Messages of LBJ Excludes speeches about weather modification

Lyndon Baines Johnson library: On This Day in History: February Excludes speeches about weather modification

Lyndon B. Johnson: 1966 (in two books) : containing the public messages, speeches, and statements of the president. Message to the Congress Transmitting the National Science Foundation's Annual Report on Weather Modification. February I8, I966 I92

Weather Modification: Annual Report, Issue 10 based on the year 1968, presented to President Nixon in 1069

Summary Report: Weather modification, based on the years 1969, 1970 and 1971.

Weather Modification: Law and Administration Spring 1968

The third period began in 1958 when, subsequent to the statutory termination of the Advisory Committee on Weather Control,20 Congress directed the National Science Foundation to investigate the field of weather modification.2' Pursuant to this direction, the Foundation has made an increasing amount of support available for weather research and experimentation. p.211

Weather modification activities have not been limited to the United States. Members of a 1964 U.S. delegation to the Soviet Union estimated that country's program was two or three times as large as that of the United States.3 1 In addition to an extensive hail suppression effort, the Russians are reported to be active in the areas of artificially induced precipitation and airport fog dissipation. 32 At least thirteen other nations have carried on research and applied operations in various aspects of weather control.33 p.212

If the scientists can control the weather, the people of the earth have the right to look forward to improved conditions in agriculture, climate and health. Enroute to this goal, however, there will necessarily be pitfalls and failures. Because the scientist employs the methods of trial and error, some way must be developed to safeguard the nations of the earth from possibly devastating results of the errors. Safeguards mean controls, and controls of value must be based on knowledge of proposed experiments, sound appraisals of their validity, and a license based on an authority which can refuse or limit as well as consent. This means an international, supra-national system of licensing, inspection and reporting. p.234

Slutsky v. City of New York 05/11/1950

Southwest Weather Research, Inc. v. Jones 07/08/1959

Legal Remedies for "Cloud-Seeding" Activities: Nuisance or Trespass? Spring 1960

Weather Modification: Annual Report, Volumes 9-10

Global Opportunity Costs: How the Iraq War Undermined U.S. Influence 03/18/2013

JFK and the Unspeakable James Douglass; my review of his book plus additional input on psychology leading to war.

JFK and the Unspeakable James Douglass 2008 Google excerpts

JFK Had Ordered Full Withdrawal from Vietnam: Solid Evidence 09/26/2017 By James K. Galbraith

JFK’s Vietnam Withdrawal Plan Is a Fact, Not Speculation 11/22/2013 By James K. Galbraith

Wikipedia: National Security Action Memorandum 263

United States officially REWROTE history this V-day when it IGNORED Soviet Union’s role in defeating Nazism 05/11/2020

War Is A Racket By Smedley Darlington Butler 1935

"Merchants of Death" 09/04/1934

The Members of Congress Who Profit From War 01/13/2020

Congress: War profiteering is real. We need to end it. 01/14/2020

A Congress That Doesn’t Want to Weigh In on War 12/09/2015

The Defense Industry’s Surprising 2016 Favorites: Bernie & Hillary 04/01/2016

Open Secrets Defense Top 20 Recipients 2019-20 2 Sanders, Bernie (I-VT) Senate $443,925; 7 Warren, Elizabeth (D-MA) Senate $219,231; 8 Trump, Donald (R) $206,754; 9 Buttigieg, Pete (D) $205,885; 12 Yang, Andrew (D) $191,401; 17 Biden, Joe (D) $164,756

Here are the members of Congress who take the most money from the gun lobby 10/03/2017 NRA and other gun groups target 98% of their campaign contributions to Republicans

John F. Kennedy Address on the 20th Anniversary of the Voice of America 02/26/1962 We welcome the view of others. We seek a free flow of information across national boundaries and oceans, across iron curtains and stone walls. We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.

More Quotes by John F. Kennedy

Trump tries to re-write WW II history 04/12/2020





John F. Kennedy on Conscientious Objectors "War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." --Letter to a Navy friend, quoted in Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., A Thousand Days: John F. Kennedy in the White House (Boston: Houghton Mifflin Company, 1965), p. 88.



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